Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

I don't care if it is college or a retirement home, stupid is stupid.

not arguing its not stupid, im talking more about scope.

True, they're crimes, and perhaps I shouldn't dismiss them so easily. But he hasn't reached Ben Roethlisberger's or even Ray Lewis' stupid level yet, and we don't know if he ever will. Shoplifting crab legs just isn't the same as sexually assaulting someone and then giving them a huge check to shut up about it. I hesitate to call shoplifting petty, because it is a crime and could potentially lead to worse, but.... Until Winston commits a major crime, or shows a pattern of this behavior when he's older, I will continue to support him.


Was Big Ben charged?

The bad things that Winston has been accused of doing should not be not be euphemistically dismissed as immature or stupid actions. They should be identified as what they are - crimes. He has been accused of crimes.



As a 20 year-old he could be a married father or a soldier in combat, so please don't call him a kid either. He is a young man who, as an adult, is responsible for his own actions.


Well being accused and being convicted are two different things. Other than the incident with the girl, and stealing crab legs I am unaware of other trouble he has been in. Not saying he hasnt just admitting im unaware. Personally I think it is a joke these division one athletes - especially high profile ones like Winston - are asked to do everything they are asked to do - and not get paid. The amount of money he makes for FSU should warrant them buying him whatever the hell he wants for dinner. But that is a whole other conversation.

Was Big Ben charged?

No charges were filed either time. He settled with the first woman out of court, and the lady involved in the second incident decided to not pursue criminal charges because of the media coverage. Innocent until proven guilty, right?

When I was in college I got back to the car at the supermarket to find an acquaintance had stolen a bunch of steaks. I was not involved and never condoned it. But as dumb as it was (especially since we shared a car so he endangered me), it was not a big deal, just a young, stupid mistake.

When I was in college I got back to the car at the supermarket to find an acquaintance had stolen a bunch of steaks. I was not involved and never condoned it. But as dumb as it was (especially since we shared a car so he endangered me), it was not a big deal, just a young, stupid mistake.


If you ate the steaks than you were involved. Lol

The bad things that Winston has been accused of doing should not be not be euphemistically dismissed as immature or stupid actions. They should be identified as what they are - crimes. He has been accused of crimes.

As a 20 year-old he could be a married father or a soldier in combat, so please don't call him a kid either. He is a young man who, as an adult, is responsible for his own actions.


While I certainly agree with your point about being responsible I could argue that just because he is twenty doesn't mean he is not still a kid in some aspects. It has been going on for decades, collage students do stupid stuff sometimes .

When I was in college I got back to the car at the supermarket to find an acquaintance had stolen a bunch of steaks. I was not involved and never condoned it. But as dumb as it was (especially since we shared a car so he endangered me), it was not a big deal, just a young, stupid mistake.


Could not help but think of this ....




Animal_House Flounder at the Supermarket - YouTube

Lmao. Seriously. Maybe a pineapple and a live lobster to go with those crab legs?

It really is one of the most hilarious stories of theft I have heard! Fn crab legs... Wierd lol

It will be forgotten until something comes up missing in the locker room!