Redskins Sign Colt McCoy

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FRPLG
04-03-2014, 11:24 PM
Again a great move...not that McCoy is any great shakes but it gives us the flexibility to move KC if a solid deal arises. I'm not entirely convinced KC is any better anyways.

Chief X_Phackter
04-03-2014, 11:46 PM
why would we give cousins starts? I rather have colt and a 2nd round pick than a backup with "potential" that never plays.


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Well the only problem with that argument, is that the backup has played, and likely will play again.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Robert can stay healthy; but the odds are against him simply due to his style of play and competitiveness. Hopefully this year he is able to find a way to make it through the season healthy and on the field - having lots of weapons to give the ball to will help.

bigm29
04-03-2014, 11:58 PM
Everyone please keep in mind that all but one of Cousins starts were with a team that had given up on the season and their head coach. His stats mean nothing.

Whether you're a fan of Cousins or not, you cannot fairly judge him by stats.

That Guy
04-03-2014, 11:59 PM
I never said give Cousins starts over RGIII, however throwing him under the bus after 4 starts is foolish. There are teams that got to the Super Bowl with a good backup QBs.... I think the Redskins are one of them.

the back up with "potential" had over 350 yards passing in a NFL game

patrick ramsey had 400 yards in his first start. tell me how that worked out. I think some people put too much value on potential. I mean, He might be pretty good, but as long as he's riding the bench we'll never know.

That Guy
04-04-2014, 12:01 AM
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Well the only problem with that argument, is that the backup has played, and likely will play again.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Robert can stay healthy; but the odds are against him simply due to his style of play and competitiveness. Hopefully this year he is able to find a way to make it through the season healthy and on the field - having lots of weapons to give the ball to will help.

and how many of the games where he started did he provide great quality play that another backup QB couldn't have? he wasn't awful, and he still has potential, but he didn't light things up either.

so far he's been pretty much the definition of an average backup QB. I have no issue keeping him, but I also don't have any issue taking a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him either. and honestly, the more he plays, the more likely his trade stock drops.

Lotus
04-04-2014, 12:22 AM
Everyone please keep in mind that all but one of Cousins starts were with a team that had given up on the season and their head coach. His stats mean nothing.

Whether you're a fan of Cousins or not, you cannot fairly judge him by stats.

Stats provide a relatively objective measure and so cannot just be dismissed.

But since stats are not your thing, let's go with the eyeball test: for us and going back to Michigan State, Cousins has a long-term habit of sometimes making very poor decisions which result in turnovers. Further, he also is not always accurate and has a long-term habit of errant passes being intercepted. Many people have stronger arms and many people are more accurate.

And none of this has to do with a team giving up.

I'm with That Guy. I'm fine if we keep him because he is a decent backup. But many people are decent backups, so the wiser course is through trade to turn him into a player who will see the field.

artmonkforhallofamein07
04-04-2014, 12:27 AM
Stats provide a relatively objective measure and so cannot just be dismissed.

But since stats are not your thing, let's go with the eyeball test: for us and going back to Michigan State, Cousins has a long-term habit of sometimes making very poor decisions which result in turnovers. Further, he also is not always accurate and has a long-term habit of errant passes being intercepted. Many people have stronger arms and many people are more accurate.

And none of this has to do with a team giving up.

I'm with That Guy. I'm fine if we keep him because he is a decent backup. But many people are decent backups, so the wiser course is through trade to turn him into a player who will see the field.

These are all true of his faults, so getting a two for him seems like a bit high of a price.

Shadowbyte
04-04-2014, 12:40 AM
I've always been a fan of Colt. I thought he got a raw deal in Cleveland., I would actually prefer that he was our #2 instead of Kirk. IMO, Kirk is getting traded.

Gary84Clark
04-04-2014, 08:10 AM
Cousins has started 4 games, and McCoy has started 21. The stats are misleading, if you enter a game late, and are down 14 you are more likely to force passes, then get interceptions.

I think Cousins will develop into a good QB, and trading him would be a big mistake. What did P. Manning, or Brady do in their first 4 starts ?......Manning had 28 interceptions as a rookie, and Brady didn't start a game

Give Cousins a dozen starts before you compare him to McCoy

This would make sense if we were looking for a starter.

skinsfan69
04-04-2014, 09:06 AM
When we get a strong backup, let me know. The numbers which you dismissed tell the tale that Cousins isn't all that good.

As for the arm, Gruden's offense is designed to compensate for QB's without a lot of arm strength. Ask Andy Dalton.

I watched several Bengals games and they were throwing the ball down the field a lot. Besides, they just signed one of the best deep threats in the game.

People love stats around here. I dismiss some of those numbers because the last game was in a monsoon. Against Dallas there were several drops. We don't win the division in 12 w/out Cousins. Like Griffin, he has things he needs to work on.

Just not a fan of McCoy as a back up for this offense. There's a good chance the backup will play here since Griffin takes a lot of hits. I was hoping we bring in Vick or even Jason Campbell lol.

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