RT and OL thread

a mediocre Tackle, or another Gronkowski ? easy choice

chip the pass rushers with a 270 lb stud, and RGIII will have plenty of time.

Why do you think all the OT's selected in the 2nd will be mediocre?

And what makes you think Niklas is going to be the next Gronkowski? I like him as well, but first of all, there's going to be better players available than him when we pick; second, TE isn't a big enough need, IMO, to justify taking one with our first pick.

We have to take the best player with our first pick. If that's o-line then that would be great. But it could also be a pass rusher, which I still think we need. If Dee Ford from Auburn slips into the 2nd round that could be tempting.

I agree . OL , DB or a pass rusher would be awesome . The only positions that I would rather not pick at 34 would be qb , rb , wr .

Why do you think all the OT's selected in the 2nd will be mediocre?

And what makes you think Niklas is going to be the next Gronkowski? I like him as well, but first of all, there's going to be better players available than him when we pick; second, TE isn't a big enough need, IMO, to justify taking one with our first pick.

Tackles like QBs are in high demand, and 4 or 5 good ones will go in the first round. Zac Martin might slip to the second round, if so I take him, he is a good one... he might be a guard though. The tackles left are questionable picks early in the 2nd... Moses, Richardson, Mewhort, and ?

Niklas has only played tight end 2 years, he has the size, strength, and decent speed to be a very good one.

As of today I would be extremely frustrated if we took a TE at 34. Between WR/RB/QB we have offensive skill covered. And I would be hard pressed to believe that a TE would be the 34th best player available on many boards.

wrong thread

Tackles like QBs are in high demand, and 4 or 5 good ones will go in the first round. Zac Martin might slip to the second round, if so I take him, he is a good one... he might be a guard though. The tackles left are questionable picks early in the 2nd... Moses, Richardson, Mewhort, and ?

Niklas has only played tight end 2 years, he has the size, strength, and decent speed to be a very good one.

I agree with this, taking the 6th-7th best OT in the draft with our first pick is not a good idea. Reaching for need is always bad. BPA.

On the podcast, Ross Tucker and Greg Cosell discussed the following players:

Tackles:

Tucker said that Jake Mattews is the best OL player in the draft. Plays like he's been in the NFL for five seasons.

Tucker also said that Greg Robinson is the best OL prospect meaning that he has an even higher ceiling than Matthews because of his size and athletic ability. But Robinson did not play in a pro-style offense in college and will need some time to develop.

Tucker called Zach Martin "the poor man's Jake Matthews" because of his knowledge of how to play OT. Per Tucker, it's as if Martin has played three years in the NFL.

Tucker was not high on Taylor Lewan because he thinks that Lewan isn't smooth laterally and that he has poor technique.

Tucker thinks Cyrus Kouanjo is mean and he likes that but he doesn't think that Cyrus moves well. Per Tucker, Cyrus will need to play RT in the NFL.

Cosell seemed to agree with Tucker on the above players.

Cosell likes Moses of UVA and he also likes Lucas of K-State. Cosell thinks that Lucas will be a RT and sees him as a good pass protector.

Guards:

Tucker likes Xavier S'ua Filo and David Yankey at OG. He called S'ua Filo "a rare athlete". Tucker thinks that S'ua Filo and Yankey are mirror images of one another in that SF is more athletic than Yankey and Yankey is more powerful than SF, yet both are athletic and powerful. SF also played LT at UCLA.

Tucker does not like Cyril Richardson at all. Cosell was silent about Richardson.

Tucker thinks tht Chris Watt of ND is a good player but that he will probably be a career backup in the NFL. Cosell disagreed with Tucker about Watt who Cosell thinks can be an NFL starter.

That's all they talked about.

Thanks

I agree with this, taking the 6th-7th best OT in the draft with our first pick is not a good idea. Reaching for need is always bad. BPA.

Reaching for an OT is probably a bad move but we might be able to get the best OG in the draft at #34. That would help us, too.

On the podcast, Ross Tucker and Greg Cosell discussed the following players:

Tackles:

Tucker said that Jake Mattews is the best OL player in the draft. Plays like he's been in the NFL for five seasons.

Tucker also said that Greg Robinson is the best OL prospect meaning that he has an even higher ceiling than Matthews because of his size and athletic ability. But Robinson did not play in a pro-style offense in college and will need some time to develop.

Tucker called Zach Martin "the poor man's Jake Matthews" because of his knowledge of how to play OT. Per Tucker, it's as if Martin has played three years in the NFL.

Tucker was not high on Taylor Lewan because he thinks that Lewan isn't smooth laterally and that he has poor technique.

Tucker thinks Cyrus Kouanjo is mean and he likes that but he doesn't think that Cyrus moves well. Per Tucker, Cyrus will need to play RT in the NFL.

Cosell seemed to agree with Tucker on the above players.

Cosell likes Moses of UVA and he also likes Lucas of K-State. Cosell thinks that Lucas will be a RT and sees him as a good pass protector.

Guards:

Tucker likes Xavier S'ua Filo and David Yankey at OG. He called S'ua Filo "a rare athlete". Tucker thinks that S'ua Filo and Yankey are mirror images of one another in that SF is more athletic than Yankey and Yankey is more powerful than SF, yet both are athletic and powerful. SF also played LT at UCLA.

Tucker does not like Cyril Richardson at all. Cosell was silent about Richardson.

Tucker thinks tht Chris Watt of ND is a good player but that he will probably be a career backup in the NFL. Cosell disagreed with Tucker about Watt who Cosell thinks can be an NFL starter.

That's all they talked about.

astute observation on Cyrus K being slow, he ran a 5.59 40.. Plus he has health issues

most sites have Lucas rated as a late round pick