WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins

I am a Johnny come lately to the Garcon conversation, but he is worth every single penny we are paying him... His play last year proved that Mike got this signing right...

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gtripp has always been our resident pessimist, but he's gone all Mylie Cyrus-crazy on us this offseason.

The slot WR in Brady's offense is a terrible comparison and you know it.

Secondly, I don't mind people being wrong, but when you're a know-it-all blowhard AND you're wrong, then I hate it. You need to just shut the fuck up and here's why.

Last year Garcon's cap number was $8.2M in a season when the cap was $123M. In other words he occupied 6.7% of the team's cap space.

This year with the cap at $133M and his cap number at $9.7M, he will occupy 7.3% of the team's cap space.

Next year and the year after, when you're proposing the team cut him, he will occupy less % of space than he will this year. Next year his cap number will be $9.7M or 6.9% of an estimated $140M cap. And in 2016 he will have a cap number of $10.2M, or 6.8% of an estimated $150M cap. And the cap may actually go up faster than that, making those %s even lower.

Again, currently 7.3% of the cap. Next year, 6.9% of the cap. 2016, 6.8% of the cap. And that's if they decide not to restructure any of that base salary and extend him.

Just shut the fuck up. He's an integral part of the team, one of the best players we have, Griffin's favorite target by far. He's not going anywhere. Now please just go away.Weird, because I hate that too! I guess we're pretty similar.

And you'll hate to find out how meaningless it is to lead the league in receptions when people think that matters! Do it on fewer targets, and then you'll really impress me. High efficiency is sexy.

Here's the thing, he's an integral part of a past team. I respect your salary cap percentage argument, though even you would admit that it's comparing apples to oranges given how much the Redskins spent in terms of cash in 2013 vs. 2015 projections. The marginal value of the cap space will be very relevant, and that's what matters.

You want to bet on Garcon being on this team next season? Cool. You can do that. It's a dumb bet, and no one is going to remember this anyway.

The slot WR in Brady's offense is a terrible comparison and you know it.

Secondly, I don't mind people being wrong, but when you're a know-it-all blowhard AND you're wrong, then I hate it. You need to just shut the fuck up and here's why.

Last year Garcon's cap number was $8.2M in a season when the cap was $123M. In other words he occupied 6.7% of the team's cap space.

This year with the cap at $133M and his cap number at $9.7M, he will occupy 7.3% of the team's cap space.

Next year and the year after, when you're proposing the team cut him, he will occupy less % of space than he will this year. Next year his cap number will be $9.7M or 6.9% of an estimated $140M cap. And in 2016 he will have a cap number of $10.2M, or 6.8% of an estimated $150M cap. And the cap may actually go up faster than that, making those %s even lower.

Again, currently 7.3% of the cap. Next year, 6.9% of the cap. 2016, 6.8% of the cap. And that's if they decide not to restructure any of that base salary and extend him.

Just shut the fuck up. He's an integral part of the team, one of the best players we have, Griffin's favorite target by far. He's not going anywhere. Now please just go away.

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I am a Johnny come lately to the Garcon conversation, but he is worth every single penny we are paying him... His play last year proved that Mike got this signing right...I'll take things you don't want quoted for $500, Alex.

In all seriousness, happy you're here. New members are the lifeblood of the internet forum industry!

So back to Andre Roberts...

A) Roberts alone does not help us to match up with the teams you mentioned. However, he is our first offseason move. There is already discussion about our acquiring Linval Joseph - how is that for working on the trenches? And once we have matched up in the trenches, a capable slot receiver can be a difference-maker.

B) Michael Johnson? Talented, sure. But he is too small for our DL, which means he'd change positions to OLB for us. Can he cover? Can he make the transition? Does he want to make the transition? Fact is, we're likely better off sticking with Kerrakpo.

Therefore, (C):
You're knocking the small Roberts signing but you're calling for big $$ to be spent to make a player change positions.

I don't get (C)

Yeah Johnson doesn't fit our defense when we're in the 3-4. In passing situations when we have a 4 man line he might. But I agree, Johnson isn't the best fit here.

Well, score one in the books for the deplorable executives who say things like "fans can never understand the game they're watching."

I really hate it when he's right. We're better than he gives us credit for.

When this thread gets bumped anonymously two years from now, it's going to be hilarious.

Weird, because I hate that too! I guess we're pretty similar.

And you'll hate to find out how meaningless it is to lead the league in receptions when people think that matters! Do it on fewer targets, and then you'll really impress me. High efficiency is sexy.

Here's the thing, he's an integral part of a past team. I respect your salary cap percentage argument, though even you would admit that it's comparing apples to oranges given how much the Redskins spent in terms of cash in 2013 vs. 2015 projections. The marginal value of the cap space will be very relevant, and that's what matters.

You want to bet on Garcon being on this team next season? Cool. You can do that. It's a dumb bet, and no one is going to remember this anyway.

Cash is irrelevant, cap is the constraint for the Redskins, not cash. Cash is an issue for teams like the Bengals and Bills, not us.

As for marginal value, you're forgetting about the contract inflation that comes along with an increasing cap. When 2015 hits and the cap is $140M or higher, a $10M cap number for a highly effective WR will not seem bad in comparison. In fact I don't think you'll be able to find a single better value among the players who hit the open market next year.

As for a bet, yes I'll take it with you any day, he will absolutely be a Redskin in 2015. I think people around here will look forward to seeing you proved wrong a lot more than you think.

So back to Andre Roberts...Can't talk about other team's players, that's tampering.

Weird, because I hate that too! I guess we're pretty similar.

And you'll hate to find out how meaningless it is to lead the league in receptions when people think that matters! Do it on fewer targets, and then you'll really impress me. High efficiency is sexy.

Here's the thing, he's an integral part of a past team. I respect your salary cap percentage argument, though even you would admit that it's comparing apples to oranges given how much the Redskins spent in terms of cash in 2013 vs. 2015 projections. The marginal value of the cap space will be very relevant, and that's what matters.

You want to bet on Garcon being on this team next season? Cool. You can do that. It's a dumb bet, and no one is going to remember this anyway.

$100.00 Right here, right now says, barring a new (not just a recurrence of the plantar faciiitis) PG is on the team next year. I don't care how you mark it down, hold me to it, etc. if right, you can remind the entire WP.

$100 cash money.