Ukraine mega thread


Chico23231
03-01-2014, 11:49 AM
That escalated quickly. Putin couldn't wait for the Olympics to be over and what does it exactly mean there is going to be costs from our President? Eastern Europe loves them some war.

Buffalo Bob
03-01-2014, 11:57 AM
For those of us who haven't been following could someone explain the situation in a few sentences?

CRedskinsRule
03-01-2014, 12:11 PM
Crimea is a region in Ukraine that hosts the Russian fleet and has a large Russian speaking and Russian leaning population. It also is a large economic engine for Ukraine as a whole. Ukraine replaced a Russian leaning prime minister and there is a serious secession movement and possible civil war. Russia today approved sending troops into Crimea and Pres Obama said there will be "costs" if Russia did.

Another background is that Ukraine agreed to give up their nuclear defense only when the US and Europe agreed to ensure their sovereignty.

CRedskinsRule
03-01-2014, 12:17 PM
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-content/photos/000/759/cache/75991_990x742-cb1391027635.jpg

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CRedskinsRule
03-01-2014, 01:22 PM
And Ukraine has called for a general troop mobilization. The question in my mind is will the US put a naval vessel in the area as a sign of support, or are we going to cede eastern Europe's fate back to Russia. One may push to some level of military response, the other leads down a path of appeasement.

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RedskinRat
03-01-2014, 01:40 PM
What CRedskinsRule said.

Expect appeasement.

Chico23231
03-01-2014, 01:47 PM
Putin has punked Obama at every turn since he has been back.

CRedskinsRule
03-01-2014, 07:17 PM
If you don't pull your troops out we won't send minions to a low level G8 talk.

That will scare Putin!

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HailGreen28
03-01-2014, 07:24 PM
So what's driving this conflict? Ethnic Ukraine vs. Russian? Natural gas? The strategic importance of the Crimea?

HailGreen28
03-01-2014, 08:03 PM
Lithuania invokes Nato treaty on Ukraine

Today @ 17:16

By EUOBSERVER

Lithuania's FM Linkevicius has said Russia's decision to deploy forces in Ukraine means "Nato, art. 4 becomes valid," referring to article 4 of the Nato treaty. The article says Nato members must meet for consultations if "the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the parties is threatened." (http://euobserver.com/tickers/123321)

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