Ukraine mega thread

I disagree, most things I’ve read have stated Ukraine lacks the ability with its current force to retake any substantial lost land. There lies the issue.



And this is stuff written prior to the election. Ukraine has lost importance footholds on multiple fronts the last two years.They haven't lost significant amounts and they have taken Russian land and held it for over 6 months. If we put a no fly zone to protect their skies at little risk to our pilots, they would re-take their land in time.

FACT: at russia's current rates it would take them 83 years to capture Ukraine and cost them 30,000,000 killed and wounded.

Second fact (not really a proven fact but it is as true as your assertion about russia's advances) if the UK and USA had been true to our word in the Budapest memorandum and put troops on the ground and in the air this war would have been over as quick as the first Gulf war when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

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Understand that if you support Pres. Trump's position on Ukraine, you are siding with Russia, N. Korea, Nicaraugua and others. Even China abstained instead of voting with Russia.

So congratulations, you have accomplished what Hillary and Barack only dreamed of, a reset of relations wxth the worlds dictators and it only cost giving up on our allies, ideals and those we pledged to protect.
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https://www.kyivpost.com/post/44119

Not only have military leaders explained it not possible to reclaim Russian gains but Zylinkski himself in December:

The Constitution of Ukraine prohibits us from doing this. De facto, these territories are now controlled by the Russians. We don’t have the strength to bring them back,” Zelensky told Le Parisien, a French newspaper.


Europe has fucked this up from day 1 and they want zero to do with Ukraine in NATO. But I have a hard time believe Ukraine who has been in strategic retreat the last two years can reclaim any territory without our boots on the ground or a multinational EU force.

Would you support anyone jumping into the war for Ukraine?

I support the US selling weapons and whatever else Ukraine needs to defend itself. Does that mean boots on the ground? No. But this idea that we are just giving away aid for free is asinine.

Trump is a Putin bootlicker. Yes you can mock me all you want but there's a reason Trump turned to Russia for money when no banks would touch him. There's a specific reason they have private conversations without translaters/recorders in the room. Anyways I said my piece.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/44119



Not only have military leaders explained it not possible to reclaim Russian gains but Zylinkski himself in December:



The Constitution of Ukraine prohibits us from doing this. De facto, these territories are now controlled by the Russians. We don’t have the strength to bring them back,” Zelensky told Le Parisien, a French newspaper.





Europe has fucked this up from day 1 and they want zero to do with Ukraine in NATO. But I have a hard time believe Ukraine who has been in strategic retreat the last two years can reclaim any territory without our boots on the ground or a multinational EU force.



Would you support anyone jumping into the war for Ukraine?Question:

When Iraq invaded Kuwait did you support Bush 1 sending US troops? ( I signed up for the Army the week the air war began. )

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Polish FM at the UN. Worth a listen

https://x.com/ManiamAkash/status/1894110636541448222?s=19

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trump being an asshole ..............................

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Trump and Vance are slowly destroying USA' relationships with allies... I saw a longer clip of the conversation between Trump, Vance and Zelenskiy - it's just embarrassing for USA. Kudos to Zelenskiy for not caving into the pressure.

trump is disgusting as is Vance.

They’re both fucking bozos, so embarrassing