Ukraine mega thread


nonniey
02-27-2022, 04:30 PM
Will we see a Berlin Airlift situation in Kiev?? Will Ukraine be divided East and West like Germany?

I see the only political solution out of this as a divided Ukraine, West Ukraine in NATO, East Ukraine in the Russian sphere. That would mean Putin gets Odessa, and the manufacturing section of Ukraine, Ukraine gets the security of the NATO Alliance.

The argument I could see against this is that Putin won't accept NATO that close, but IF the Ukraine forces can bog the Russian Army down enough that Russia can't force a political change, he may see that as rebuilding the Russian Empire.


Huh????

Giantone
02-27-2022, 04:47 PM
I can agree that he is supportive of Putin. I still have a hard time viewing the term "smart" as praise. I also agree with the concept that it has to be taken in context of the timing and previous comments. I was expecting the article to continue with Trump saying "the way he attacked was smart" or "his use of disinformation was smart".

This is good value to the conversation and I appreciate the way you discuss things in this thread unlike G1 whose approach is a 4 yr old getting potty trained. Pissing all over the place and never hitting the mark.

LOL, yup trump is a child so I will respond to his followers in the same since they seem to try and convince everyone what he said he didn't mean or the World took it the wrong way, fuck that, enough is enough. Everyone needs to condemn what is going on ,end of discussion.

nonniey
02-27-2022, 04:50 PM
27 Feb Assessment.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-ukraine-warning-update-russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-27

Chico23231
02-27-2022, 07:07 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/mysterious-large-circles-on-russian-radar-turn-out-to-be-president-zelenskys-testicles

Mysterious Large Circles On Russian Radar Turn Out To Be President Zelensky's Massive Testicles

sdskinsfan2001
02-27-2022, 07:22 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/mysterious-large-circles-on-russian-radar-turn-out-to-be-president-zelenskys-testicles

Mysterious Large Circles On Russian Radar Turn Out To Be President Zelensky's Massive Testicles

And fuck their vodka. The one thing they're actually useful for.

https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/russian-vodka-pulled-from-shelves-in-us-canada-bars-liquor-stores/

Chico23231
02-27-2022, 08:14 PM
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/belarus-holds-referendum-to-renounce-non-nuclear-status



Belarus is holding a referendum to adopt a new constitution that would ditch its non-nuclear status, at a time when the country has become a launchpad for Russian troops invading Ukraine.

Belarus holds referendum to renounce non-nuclear status

The vote on Sunday is almost certain to pass under the tightly controlled rule of President Alexander Lukashenko, bringing nuclear weapons back on Belarusian soil for the first time since the country gave them up after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Really a problem. NATO and EU just playing checkers while Russia is playing chess. If you don’t see major problems how NATO has handled this crisis then I can’t help you. Germany and their bullshit energy policy along with their fence riding kinda help this crisis along to this point.

Giantone
02-28-2022, 07:22 AM
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/belarus-holds-referendum-to-renounce-non-nuclear-status



Belarus is holding a referendum to adopt a new constitution that would ditch its non-nuclear status, at a time when the country has become a launchpad for Russian troops invading Ukraine.

Belarus holds referendum to renounce non-nuclear status

The vote on Sunday is almost certain to pass under the tightly controlled rule of President Alexander Lukashenko, bringing nuclear weapons back on Belarusian soil for the first time since the country gave them up after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Really a problem. NATO and EU just playing checkers while Russia is playing chess. If you don’t see major problems how NATO has handled this crisis then I can’t help you. Germany and their bullshit energy policy along with their fence riding kinda help this crisis along to this point.

......JHC, and you're playing candyland!

punch it in
02-28-2022, 08:58 AM
Not talking specifically about Trump saying it. But to me saying someone is smart doesn't mean you like them, agree them on anything, think they can't be evil motherfuckers, can't do dumb ass shit, etc.

I think everyone here is that talks regularly about politics is smart, but shit, I don't agree with 95% of it.

Obviously, declaring war on Ukraine is a smidgen different than Command Post political threads, but it's still relative.


Yea you can call someone who is a bad person a genius, because they can be. But let’s look at context. When you are the former POTUS, and Putin invades a sovereign country and ur statement is “the man is a genius “ well……..little different than just a random observation about a random bad guy.

If Biden said the same thing when this happened id want him impeached so this isn’t my hatred for Trump speaking. It is an absolutely absurd thing for a POTUS to say as it was going down.

SunnySide
02-28-2022, 11:54 AM
Probably could’ve put this under media bias but since it is about Putin put it here.
https://apple.news/AtwDtJwv0SrmRTJnBlT0yHw

Headline says Trump praises Putin. In the article the only quote from Trump is Putin is smart. Is that praise? That is like saying Aaron Rodgers is good at football. So stupid and disappointed in CNN

Trump defends praise of Putin even as he calls Ukrainian President 'brave'

^^ article title .. seems this isnt covering his initial praise of Putin but Trumps response to criticism of his praise

"The problem is not that Putin is smart, which, of course, he's smart," Trump said. "The problem is that our leaders are dumb... and so far, allowed him to get away with this travesty and assault on humanity."

"Putin is playing [President Joe] Biden like a drum and it's not a pretty thing to watch," he continued.

His comments on Zelensky come days after he lavished praise on Putin, calling the Kremlin leader "genius" and "savvy" in a radio interview.

mredskins
02-28-2022, 12:26 PM
This must be real life Red Dawn in the Ukraine right now, scary shit.

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