Ukraine mega thread

https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1496950737762684928

My heart breaks for the people of the Ukraine. This is what fighting for freedom actually looks like.

I'd like to talk more shit about Comrade Tucker or Trump signing up to be Vlad's spokesman, but you guys got it covered pretty good.

Literally no point in responding to Chico - media/Biden to blame. Same shit different toilet.

Like I said you hear more complaints about trump, Tucker, etc..usually a single quote taken out of context because that’s the liberals only game plan.

Biden had a year to strategize to stop Russian aggression and promised the American people he was the man to stand up to Putin.

He has failed so far. But continue Mooby about Tucker Carlson, that’s the real problem.

Trump the guy who had American troops kill Russia troops in Syria.

Trump the guy who reversed Obama/Biden policy of only non leathel support to Ukraine and put arms including javelin into Ukraine.

Trump the guy who reversed Obama/Biden course and put missiles in Poland against the will of Russia.

Trump the guy who said EU must carry their weight and pressured them to do more to strengthen the eastern front. As we see today Germany continues to disappoint, not doing what they should to stop this Russian aggression

Trump the guy who had American troops kill Russia troops in Syria.

Trump the guy who reversed Obama/Biden policy of only non leathel support to Ukraine and put arms including javelin into Ukraine.

Trump the guy who reversed Obama/Biden course and put missiles in Poland against the will of Russia.

Trump the guy who said EU must carry their weight and pressured them to do more to strengthen the eastern front. As we see today Germany continues to disappoint, not doing what they should to stop this Russian aggression

My God do you ever read what you write, you are seriously ignorant. I posted what he didn't do for Ukraine ,he got Impeached for it .......comrade chico!

My God do you ever read what you write, you are seriously ignorant. I posted what he didn't do for Ukraine ,he got Impeached for it .......comrade chico!

G1 why don’t you just make a thread about post presidency of Trump? I’m sure it would be therapeutic.

G1 why don’t you just make a thread about post presidency of Trump? I’m sure it would be therapeutic.

This coming from the media crybaby, funny shit chico. You and your Biden bullshit. You ignore trumps ignorance only to show your own.

The easiest evidence to see the media is in the bag for failed presidency is why you hear so much of Tucker, Candace Owens, Trump, etc and Ukraine. Of course none of these people matter when it comes to decision making or strategy.

Wa Post, NYT, La times, Chicago Tribune, NBC news, CNN…no one raising an ounce of criticism on Jake Sullivan, Blinken, Psaki, Klein, Harris or Biden over Ukraine. Why is that? It doesn’t reflect the actual sentiment of the American people:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx

36% approve of the handling of Russia vs 55% disapprove. Overall 41 approve vs 55 disapprove.

4 out of the top 5 articles most read on the Wa Post were about Trump. It’s laughable how out of touch the coverage is.

That’s why they continue to highlight Tucker, Owens, Trump, etc.

I am not shocked at all by these numbers. I think in terms of Russia I do agree but the precedent has been set on the handling of Putin by the two prior administrations and Western Europe. We handled his transgressions poorly for over a decade and now we are acting like parents going "I don't know what the problem is! I took away his phone."

I am not shocked at all by these numbers. I think in terms of Russia I do agree but the precedent has been set on the handling of Putin by the two prior administrations and Western Europe. We handled his transgressions poorly for over a decade and now we are acting like parents going "I don't know what the problem is! I took away his phone."

Definitely plenty of blame to go around. Some of it falls on Biden but certainly not all of it or most of it.

Treat countries like Russia with kiddy gloves and they will walk all over you.

maybe im just in a bad mood today (I have to watch the sound of music tonight) ...

but can you guys drop the trump talk. fuck trump

eveyr thread just gravitates to the median .. which is trump biden blah blah blah

fuck both of them. one is a con artist and the other is old as fuck and only won bc he went up against the worst president of all time.

were robots at this point ... repeating talking points about how the other side just repeats talking pionts

our discussions in here are on an algorythm (or how ever you spell that word) .. everyone knows exactly where any discussion is going and who is going to say what

"ghost of Kiev" .. a rogue Ukraine mig fighter is rumored to have 6 air to sir kills as of 2 hours ago. dont know if its real, and i imagine people just want some knight in shinnig armor but the story is badass if true. i hope it is.

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russia wants to talk surrender, Ukraine President Zelensky wants to talk,perhaps will accept being a neutral country .. whcih means he steps down and russia puts russian plants in charge and things go back to pre 2014 status

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Snake island - a tiny tiny little island with like 2 houses on it. 13 ukraine soldiers there. russian warship announces over speaker "capitualte or die"

ukraine's are heard saying "well this is it". they then turn their speaker up loud and told the russian warship to "go fuck yourself"

they lied soon after.

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I am not shocked at all by these numbers. I think in terms of Russia I do agree but the precedent has been set on the handling of Putin by the two prior administrations and Western Europe. We handled his transgressions poorly for over a decade and now we are acting like parents going "I don't know what the problem is! I took away his phone."

I just don’t agree here. George W was tough on Russia…john McCain and Mitt Romney ( Obama: 1980s called they want their foreign policy back) both Presidential nominations and leaders in the GOP both extremely tough and hawkish on Russia. While Trump disgracefully praised Putin multiple times, his positions and policy were tough on Russia. I’ve outlined it above and he placed the sanctions on Nordstream 2 originally.

But when I say check the record on Biden, he’s praised Russia as well in the past and even considered him an ally while in the Obama administration. Democrats used Russia as a scapegoat for 2016 that’s where I see the basis for their emerging hate of Russia. Here is Biden in the Obama administration:

US Vice President Joe Biden announced Obama’s new policy at the February 2009 Munich Security Conference: ‘It’s time to press the reset button and to revisit the many areas where we can and should be working together with Russia.’6 At the heart of this reset was prudent expectations management, using moderate rhetoric to create a set of achievable goals. The focus was interest-based pragmatism and a restrained policy toward Russia’s neighbours and toward Russia’s internal politics.