Ukraine mega thread

Kent State anyone? I know it's not the same, but the video just reminded me of it.

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Good Reuters article:U.S. sanctions more Russians over Ukraine | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSBREA3O16720140428)

The slideshow as well shows that it looks pretty full blown at this point.

Tania Mysak ‏@martantomkat 1h
Life under Russia "@bopanc: Pensioner in #Donetsk says was beaten by separatists who attacked pro-#Ukraine rally

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmUjLP4IQAAispm.jpg

Fuck Putin. If Ukraine had any oil, we'd have a carrier parked off the coast and troops on the ground by the thousands. They should kill their economy. Fuck em.

An interesting thing, as we levy these various sanctions. Russia has pegged (or is about to in May) the ruble back to a gold standard, and is on the verge of only selling their oil for gold or rubles.

I will admit, this is an interesting tactic, and if they get enough buy in, maybe it blows up the underbelly of the US banking system. Certainly there are a lot of fearmongers out there that have been warning of it from China for a long time.

I still have this bad feeling that Putin is just playing the western leaders like a fiddle. But maybe he's just a maniac.

I guess the Kiev govt has just accepted that the East is lost. Doesn't seem like they have made much of an attempt to take back or stop the pro Russian movement.

From Breaking News:
Acting Ukrainian President Turchynov says most police in east Ukraine incapable of fulfilling duties, demands dismissal of Luhansk, Donetsk commanders - @Reuters

So it makes me wonder if it really is a case where the Western powers ought to accept that Ukraine should be divided. Hard to defend the Kiev government when a lot of the frontline troops in the East won't.

An interesting thing, as we levy these various sanctions. Russia has pegged (or is about to in May) the ruble back to a gold standard, and is on the verge of only selling their oil for gold or rubles.

I will admit, this is an interesting tactic, and if they get enough buy in, maybe it blows up the underbelly of the US banking system. Certainly there are a lot of fearmongers out there that have been warning of it from China for a long time.

I still have this bad feeling that Putin is just playing the western leaders like a fiddle. But maybe he's just a maniac.

i read china has agreed to use the euro with russia oil. this goes back to iran wanting to have OPEC use euro 4-5 years ago. smart move if they could ever get all the moving (and sometimes warring) parties n'sync.

BBC News - 'Many dead' in Ukraine offensive in Sloviansk - Turchynov (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27259614)


Ukraine going on the offensive in some areas against the pro-Russian rebels. No doubt Russia is behind this crap.

More than 40 killed in fire, clashes in Ukraine's Odessa | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/02/us-ukraine-crisis-odessa-fire-idUSBREA410RP20140502)

it's looking to get rougher, of course this was between rival soccer fans so you know it will get out of control.

http://funatphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/a1ABD06_700b.jpg?f2944c

Swearing off bad language: Russia bans cussing in films, books, music - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/europe/russia-swearing-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

Wasnt gonna start a new thread, but to me this is crazy.