Skinsfanatic
03-30-2005, 08:02 AM
OK, I was reading Peter Kings (I don't like him either) article from the other day on CNNSI, and I noticed he said this:
"Saban loves draft picks: He wants more of them. He is in mourning over the fact the Dolphins don't have their second-round selection this year (they dealt it for A.J. Feeley last year), and I see Saban holding out for a second- or a third-round pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. Right now, the best offer out there for Surtain is Kansas City's fourth-round pick."
Is it just me, or wouldn't it make LOTS of sense for us to trade a third rounder for Surtain (if that is actually an option)? I mean, it would free up our first rounder for the D Line or allow us to trade down more comfortably (which I would prefer) while giving us a top notch corner to line up beside Springs.
Gmanc711
03-30-2005, 08:34 AM
OK, I was reading Peter Kings (I don't like him either) article from the other day on CNNSI, and I noticed he said this:
"Saban loves draft picks: He wants more of them. He is in mourning over the fact the Dolphins don't have their second-round selection this year (they dealt it for A.J. Feeley last year), and I see Saban holding out for a second- or a third-round pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. Right now, the best offer out there for Surtain is Kansas City's fourth-round pick."
Is it just me, or wouldn't it make LOTS of sense for us to trade a third rounder for Surtain (if that is actually an option)? I mean, it would free up our first rounder for the D Line or allow us to trade down more comfortably (which I would prefer) while giving us a top notch corner to line up beside Springs.
I know Surtin brings a 8.1 Million Dollar cap hit with him; so if that was wiped out and reduced somewhere long the way, I wouldnt mind it. Its still hard to tell, because who knows what we will be left with on draft day.
Skinsfanatic
03-30-2005, 08:44 AM
The cap hit is an issue. But, contracts can be reworked and bonuses spread out. I just think it makes a lot of sense to bring in a young pro bowler with a 3rd rounder instead of using a first rounder on a guy who might find the same level of success in the NFL he had in college.
FRPLG
03-30-2005, 09:25 AM
I know Surtin brings a 8.1 Million Dollar cap hit with him; so if that was wiped out and reduced somewhere long the way, I wouldnt mind it. Its still hard to tell, because who knows what we will be left with on draft day.
Are we sure about the cap hit? I don't have much knowledge on his contract but could that be the hit for Miami? Much like Coles maybe the huit isn't as big for a team who trades for him. Also...doens't he have some "issues" . I seem to remember him being somewhat of a malcontent. We don't need any of those.
Drift Reality
03-30-2005, 01:15 PM
Why does he bring that cap hit with him?
If a player is traded, the remainder of his signing bonus is accelerated onto next year's cap - for the team that trades him.
We would pick up his salary, but it would all be unguaranteed money.
CC - can you chime in on this?
diehardskin2982
03-30-2005, 02:18 PM
i don't think we need him he'll demand a contract higher than what smoot asked for and that ain't gonna happen
Skinsfanatic
03-30-2005, 02:19 PM
He's better than Smoot. Just thought that was worth mentioning.
TheMalcolmConnection
03-30-2005, 02:21 PM
I haven't checked, but what is our cap looking like in 2006? I think it's an interesting option.
Daseal
03-30-2005, 06:14 PM
He's better than Smoot. Just thought that was worth mentioning.
Very true, but I'm curious what the salaries look like side by side. I think that's the only reason the fins are having trouble unloaded Surtain for anything decent.
With the escalated Coles hit I'm GUESSING that we have more room in 2006.
BigSKINBauer
03-30-2005, 06:40 PM
OK, I was reading Peter Kings (I don't like him either) article from the other day on CNNSI, and I noticed he said this:
"Saban loves draft picks: He wants more of them. He is in mourning over the fact the Dolphins don't have their second-round selection this year (they dealt it for A.J. Feeley last year), and I see Saban holding out for a second- or a third-round pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. Right now, the best offer out there for Surtain is Kansas City's fourth-round pick."
Is it just me, or wouldn't it make LOTS of sense for us to trade a third rounder for Surtain (if that is actually an option)? I mean, it would free up our first rounder for the D Line or allow us to trade down more comfortably (which I would prefer) while giving us a top notch corner to line up beside Springs.
I thought about this before and i would but thats just me, how much mula $$ would he ask for