Kicker situation

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cpayne5
03-29-2005, 02:04 PM
I don't think Hall's accuracy is in question at all. He came to us with a kick rating in the high 70's but that was playing in the Meadowlands, which is notorious for its swirling winds. He's a top 10 kicker and could be a top 5 with a good, healthy year.

Chandler seemed to be money within 35 yards, but he gets really shaky really quick beyond that. He almost hit Daseal and I with a poorly kicked ball before the Vikes game! Chandler is OK, but not good enough to take Hall's roster spot away from him.

firstdown
03-29-2005, 02:07 PM
it always good to have a back up plan. Hall wouldn't be hurt half as much if he acted like a kicker and not a member of the defense, when they got near him.I'd like to see kickers hitting alittle more than ducking their heads as the runner goes by. They are football players. LOL

TheMalcolmConnection
03-29-2005, 02:09 PM
I'm not doubting Hall at all. I'm just saying if his leg is still aggrivated to where it might affect his field goal kicking.

Then again, if it affects that, it would probably effect his kickoffs...

cpayne5
03-29-2005, 02:20 PM
I don't believe that Hall's injuries had anything to do with contact. The first one was a purely kicking injury, a muscle simply ripped when he kicked the ball. He had a hard time coming back from that and probably pushed himself too hard.

I think that an offseason of full rehab will bring him back to 100%.

Daseal
03-29-2005, 03:21 PM
Wasn't Halls' problem that he continued to kick after the injury?

PSUSkinsFan21
03-29-2005, 04:46 PM
I'm actually surprised to see so many people this high on Hall. I have nothing against the guy (in fact I like his intensity for a kicker), but has anyone really looked at his numbers? He's lifetime 182-247 (73.7%) overall and 41-71 from 40-49 (57.7%) and only 13-27 from 50+ (48.1%). Those numbers are actually painfully average to below average for a veteran NFL kicker. I still think he's better than Chandler, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade at kicker sometime down the road.

Gmanc711
03-29-2005, 05:43 PM
I think Hall will be the guy.... but I say let them battle it out in training camp. I defintley like Chandler; and I hope if Hall beats him out, we can find a way to keep him around incase of injury. I think Hall is proboably the better kicker though.

azskinsfan2
03-29-2005, 08:11 PM
Hall is definitely better if he can stay healthy. If not Chandler isn't too bad of a back up but not on long kicks. What's Mark Mosely up to these days???

sportscurmudgeon
03-29-2005, 08:45 PM
If either Hall or Chandler is injured coming out of the exhibition season, then the decision is made for the Skins. However, if both are healthy, the Skins will almost assuredly release one of them. I don't see them carrying and dressing two kickers for every game.

That is the reason that "dangling one of them" even in a package with Morton - who is also someone with next to zero trade value - will get you very few return phone calls. Teams know that the Skins will likely release one of the kickers and so they'll wait to see who is out there and decide if that is an upgrade to what they have,

Side issue here: The idea of packaging Morton and Hall as trade bait is really interesting since it is half of the "Jetskins" raid that Danny Boy allegedly put over on those stupid NY Jets. All of a sudden, half of the haul from that raid is trade bait that might garner a seventh round draft pick and some rolls of tape for the training staff whilst another guy stolen in that raid is back with the Jets but with a load of Redskins' money in his pocket. I wish the archives of this board went all the way back to the days when the Jetskins raid was front sports page news because NO ONE here would have ever thought this would be the outcome so shortly afterwards.

The bottom line is that Chandler is a decent back-up but not someone who is nearly good enough to be an elite kicker in the league. Hall is better but is also short of elite status.

jordanz301
03-29-2005, 11:44 PM
i dnt care wut we do as long as swedish trash ole kimrin never ever steps foot on a football field again he was HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........HE MISSED LIEK 3-4 20 YARDERS......i dnt actually have the satat

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