Giantone
01-23-2014, 05:08 AM
No one could objectively be against eliminating the PAT. It is literally useless in terms of entertainment. Being against it would simply be a grumpy old man type fear of change.
Or just likes the game the way it is .:doh:
Giantone
01-23-2014, 05:13 AM
Adjust it , move it back , ok , but eliminate it ......no .So why have kickoffs , just start at the 20 after every score .Matty you said the success rate is 99.1 since 04 ,it's that .09 that makes it interesting and exciting .
FRPLG
01-23-2014, 09:28 AM
Or just likes the game the way it is .:doh:
That's not an objective argument. That's the fear of change argument. I like the game too...that doesn't mean it can't be made better. I ask this...why? Why is it better with a 99.1% always-made-kick that generates virtually no excitement?
FRPLG
01-23-2014, 09:29 AM
...it's that .09 that makes it interesting and exciting .
No it doesn't.
Adjust it , move it back , ok , but eliminate it ......no .So why have kickoffs , just start at the 20 after every score .Matty you said the success rate is 99.1 since 04 ,it's that .09 that makes it interesting and exciting .
Or the fact something happens 99.1% of the time without incident makes it F'ing boring.
Bucket
01-23-2014, 01:42 PM
I think every team should have to go for 2. That would make games way more interesting.
Monkeydad
01-23-2014, 01:50 PM
Can there be exceptions to the rules for Denver?
Why? If the air makes the balls fly better, than the temperature makes the ball rock hard. :D
That is something to deal with but the Rockies cut down on the home runs by storing balls in a humidor, so maybe they could throw the footballs in there too.
Monkeydad
01-23-2014, 01:54 PM
it's that .09 that makes it interesting and exciting .
No, it makes you want to rip your hair out and the kicker's legs off.
It's not exciting, you either laugh uncontrollably or you blow a gasket depending on which side you're on.
You call this exciting?
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Paintrain
01-23-2014, 02:26 PM
Adjust it , move it back , ok , but eliminate it ......no .So why have kickoffs , just start at the 20 after every score .Matty you said the success rate is 99.1 since 04 ,it's that .09 that makes it interesting and exciting .
The .09% chance of anything is only interesting if you are the one holding a winning lottery ticket.
FRPLG
01-23-2014, 03:56 PM
If you can accept that the current PAT is simply perfunctory, which the numbers bare out, then you'd have to accept that TDs are functionally worth 7 points in today's NFL. Start from that point of view and follow a logical path of reasoning to understand why it should be changed in some way.
I personally think moving it back or making it more difficult in some other way actually changes the game MORE than just formally making TDs worth 7 and integrating the +1/-1 idea. So in some ways I am against drastic changes.