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Some pretty interesting figures here:
Washington Redskins Stats That Mattered in 2013 | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1925307-washington-redskins-stats-that-mattered-in-2013)

Sometimes numbers do tell the story.

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Some pretty interesting figures here:
Washington Redskins Stats That Mattered in 2013 | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1925307-washington-redskins-stats-that-mattered-in-2013)

I wish i hadn't read that. Thats fn terrible. What a waste of a year.

I will argue this all day long. The stats on "pressures" do not accurately count the amount of times he dropped back and had one, two, or three of the KL/WL/CC pu pu platter butt bumping him within micro seconds. All year he was throwing from a compromised pocket with little in the way of passing lanes. He threw off his back foot 1/3 of the time so he wouldn't shred the Achilles of one of those guys constantly.

I will argue this all day long. The stats on "pressures" do not accurately count the amount of times he dropped back and had one, two, or three of the KL/WL/CC pu pu platter butt bumping him within micro seconds. All year he was throwing from a compromised pocket with little in the way of passing lanes. He threw off his back foot 1/3 of the time so he wouldn't shred the Achilles of one of those guys constantly.


Some of you guys make waaaaay to many excuses for Robert. Reminds me of the ole Jason Campbell supporters. Facts are facts. He didn't have good field vision, didn't read the defenses well, accuracy was way off, and he held onto the ball too long at times.

Sure, the offensive line was offensive at times, but the fact of the matter is our QB play stunk. (as well as other positions)

Some pretty interesting figures here:
Washington Redskins Stats That Mattered in 2013 | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1925307-washington-redskins-stats-that-mattered-in-2013)

A while back I made a comment how all of our units were terrible and how at many times each unit negatively affected the other. This stat is just ridiculous but it also sort of proves my point:

"38: That's the number of times the Redskins defense was forced to take the field in its own territory, which was the highest total in the NFL by a margin of five, according to ESPN's John Keim. Historically bad special teams and a high turnover rate will do that. "

That's an average of 2 times per game that special teams and/or the offense let the opponents start in Washington's side of the field.

A while back I made a comment how all of our units were terrible and how at many times each unit negatively affected the other. This stat is just ridiculous but it also sort of proves my point:

"38: That's the number of times the Redskins defense was forced to take the field in its own territory, which was the highest total in the NFL by a margin of five, according to ESPN's John Keim. Historically bad special teams and a high turnover rate will do that. "

That's an average of 2 times per game that special teams and/or the offense let the opponents start in Washington's side of the field.

3-13 is what u get

Some of you guys make waaaaay to many excuses for Robert. Reminds me of the ole Jason Campbell supporters. Facts are facts. He didn't have good field vision, didn't read the defenses well, accuracy was way off, and he held onto the ball too long at times.

Sure, the offensive line was offensive at times, but the fact of the matter is our QB play stunk. (as well as other positions)An excuse is something like blaming the 2012 knee injury. Or saying that all sophomores struggle. Those are excuses that don't address the on field play.

Saying that the interior lineman couldn't build a pocket or that a lot of times the offensive gameplan seemed counterproductive just means you understood what was happening.

Some of you guys make waaaaay to many excuses for Robert. Reminds me of the ole Jason Campbell supporters. Facts are facts. He didn't have good field vision, didn't read the defenses well, accuracy was way off, and he held onto the ball too long at times.

Sure, the offensive line was offensive at times, but the fact of the matter is our QB play stunk. (as well as other positions)

Conversely, some people are acting like Griffin was Shuler-like last season. There were times he looked like crap and there were times he looked like what we expect him to be. In the middle of the season, there were stretches where he looked as good as any QB we faced this year outside of Manning. Unfortunately, it was never for long enough.

I'm already tired of the 'experts' talking about having to 'fix' Griffin. SVP & Russilo asked Tim Hasselbeck the other day if 'RG3 is the biggest question mark in the NFL heading into next season'. Seriously? He needs an offseason, healthy, to be coached and develop. If he still has ratings in the 70's, a high turnover ratio, has sloppy mechanics and runs/puts himself in danger too much, then let's have that discussion. Until then, people need to chill.

All of the smoke and noise that Shanahan & his camp put out the last 5 or 6 weeks of the season has worked to distract people from the piss poor job he did and was fired as a result of.

Some pretty interesting figures here:
Washington Redskins Stats That Mattered in 2013 | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1925307-washington-redskins-stats-that-mattered-in-2013)


Insane, Robert was pressured 38% of his dropbacks and 46 dropped passes? No QB could succeed with those stats. On top of that, the D gave up 30 points a game!



58.4: That was Kirk Cousins' passer rating in relief of Griffin, which if he qualified would have ranked dead last in the NFL by a huge margin. He threw seven interceptions on only 155 attempts, which is pretty much unacceptable. Griffin struggled in 2013, but Cousins was even worse. Jay Gruden is right about there being no quarterback competition.