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Yes, it is normal for older vets to make younger players pay for various things. The part where Martin was not included on the trip might be abnormal.

"Every year, as tradition, the offensive line goes on a big Vegas trip. Everything is paid for in advance, from hotels to a private jet to show tickets. Martin originally verbally committed to the trip, then later backed out after everything was booked. Now, if you can’t go because of an emergency then it’s okay, but to say you’re going and then decide you don’t want to spend the money later? Everything was paid for, and then when it was time to pay up he didn’t want to go anymore. You don’t do that to your brothers. The veterans who paid for it, including Incognito and others, asked for Martin’s share, and he gave it to them. End of story."

Richie Incognito never bullied Jonathan Martin, Lydon Murtha says | The MMQB with Peter King (http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-dolphins-lydon-murtha/)

I dont want either one of these guys on the team.

I dont want either one of these guys on the team.

This. Never really cared for Incognito, but I don't want Martin on my team either. We don't need another scenario like that on our team.

Apparently this guy knows nothing. Look at this dumbass article. He say we need bigger lineman, Adam Gettis is going to be our new RT. This guy apparently writes articles by seat of his pants.

Offseason Forecast: Washington Redskins - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000325729/article/offseason-forecast-washington-redskins)


» OT Tyler Polumbus: Polumbus has been a turnstile at right tackle, and is perhaps the weakest link on the team. The Redskins like 2012 fifth-round pick Adam Gettis, and he could slide into Polumbus' spot if they don't find someone in free agency.

I think it's obvious we need bigger linemen. That's one of the reasons I've been advocating drafting Cyril Richardson.

Edit: My bad. I see what you're saying now.

Apparently this guy knows nothing. Look at this dumbass article. He say we need bigger lineman, Adam Gettis is going to be our new RT. This guy apparently writes articles by seat of his pants.

Offseason Forecast: Washington Redskins - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000325729/article/offseason-forecast-washington-redskins)

A great example of why many articles/columns from national writers are awful. It's almost like they look at the roster and randomly plug in names wherever they have blank space.

A great example of why many articles/columns from national writers are awful. It's almost like they look at the roster and randomly plug in names wherever they have blank space.

I know right, when we all know it's LeRibeus who will be are new starting RT. :)

Thanks guys for the good info on the Vegas vacation.

Jim Haslett on outside linebackers: We'll turn them loose - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60906/haslett-on-olbs-well-turn-them-loose)

Not a bad read, IMO if we get constant pressure secondary looks so much better.

Jim Haslett on outside linebackers: We'll turn them loose - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60906/haslett-on-olbs-well-turn-them-loose)

Not a bad read, IMO if we get constant pressure secondary looks so much better.

only if we can get a free safety to play worth a @#$!.