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Washington Redskins: What Could Have Been... - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/1/31/5366842/washington-redskins-what-could-have-been)

Had to post this here.

Washington Redskins: What Could Have Been... - Hogs Haven (http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/1/31/5366842/washington-redskins-what-could-have-been)



Had to post this here.


Jury is still out on whether or not we made the rite move imo. I voted no on the poll question along with almost everyone else though because no one person could have made that big of a difference on this team last year.

It's so weird the report that Incognito turned to Martin when the whole situation started to get blown up and asked him to diffuse the situation By then Martin had stopped texting him.

Had Incognito actually threatened Martin, no way he asks for his help. Guy like that fights his own fights.

I'm not going to pretend like I understand bro type of relationships but seeing the texts they sent to each other, it definitely seems like they were friendly... In a frat bro kinda way.

Yeah I think the bullying angle is weak, looking at their texts suggests a more typical relationship amongst dudes. Like I said I think this whole bullying stuff is just to cover the fact that Martin got benched. Being a high drafted pick that got benched in your second year? That's pretty embarrassing.

Their relationship was completely misguided by the media.

There doesn't seem to be much to the story that Martin was bullied. There may be something to a notion of drugs being a problem on the Oline in MIA and causing problems with Martin both on and off the field. Just because he was never busted doesn't mean it didn't cause him problems mentally.

One other thing.. The Pouncey's are bad news.

Yeah I think the bullying angle is weak, looking at their texts suggests a more typical relationship amongst dudes. Like I said I think this whole bullying stuff is just to cover the fact that Martin got benched. Being a high drafted pick that got benched in your second year? That's pretty embarrassing.

If that's true, then Martin is supremely low since he not only took a coward's way out, he made sure to bring Incognito down with him.

Congrads to Ray Guy getting into the HOF . Still can't see how C. Haley is passed over . Congrads to the entire 2014 HOF class .

2014 Pro Football Hall of Fame -- Derrick Brooks, Walter Jones, Andre Reed, Michael Strahan, Aeneas Williams, Ray Guy, Claude Humphrey selected - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10387793/2014-pro-football-hall-fame-derrick-brooks-walter-jones-andre-reed-michael-strahan-aeneas-williams-ray-guy-claude-humphrey-selected)

Don't really see anyone here who didn't deserve to make it. Congrats to Ray Guy as well, even though I never saw him play from looking at his numbers and seeing the vocal support he's gotten over the years suggests he deserved to make it.

Ray Guy had an insane leg. He invented hang time.

Solid list overall.

Go Ray Guy!

SHOCKER! P Manning wins MVP