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I mean the teams went in different directions for many reasons.

1. They are loaded with talent we r not
2. Pete Carroll has done a great job with this team and they love the guy, obviously ms didn't get that same treatment.
3. RW didn't have a horrible knee injury and miss all OS.
4. They have a dominant set of DBs, ours are as bad as it gets with Wilson starting.
5. Injuries killed us this yr, who was their big injury? Nobody

Actually we had a pretty injury free year. LAst year we sustained more injuries at least to key players.

Lol, I'm so honored.

Since the pressure is now on, here's an interesting look at how the varied offseason approaches between us and Seattle have led us to divergent paths.

Redskins, Seahawks took different paths - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4989/redskins-seahawks-took-different-paths)

I'm sure this will just open up the draft vs. free agency discussion again.

They've just done a better overall job picking players and having a true plan. Seattle has taken some chances in free agency, hit on some and missed on some. But the players they've picked at almost every position is better than ours.

So he's not the OC then, which is fine JG did a good job in CIN

Not every OC calls plays

Lol, I'm so honored.

Since the pressure is now on, here's an interesting look at how the varied offseason approaches between us and Seattle have led us to divergent paths.

Redskins, Seahawks took different paths - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4989/redskins-seahawks-took-different-paths)

I'm sure this will just open up the draft vs. free agency discussion again.

The article didn't mention Jordan Reed?

What I take away from the article is simply that Seattle hit on their lower round picks and drafted a lot of defense. I always believe that a sign of a great GM is one who can find the diamonds in the rough in the lower rounds. I know someone here won't agree with me on that, but it's obvious that's true. Mike Shanahan had the final say, and seemed to hit more on the offensive side of the ball than defense. Yet he still seeemed to whiff on offensive linemen and the secondary. Seattle's GM picked the players while Carroll coached the team. The 'skins have that in place now. Let's compare the two after this version of the front office, and after Gruden has been in place for a couple seasons.

So he's not the OC then, which is fine JG did a good job in CIN

He is the offensive coordinator. He'll fill in when Gruden needs him to - whether if it is running meetings, offensive drills in practice, whatever is needed...he'll also help to game plan with Gruden. He just won't be calling plays on game day.

So he's not the OC then, which is fine JG did a good job in CIN

I think Lotus needs to chime in with the "why can't we be normal" chant now.

Rather than having everybody step into their new roles, it almost seems like the whole offensive staff will have a bit less than the normal at their position. HC's in this day and age have too many other issues, time management, challenges and reviews, etc, for them to be calling plays. And since the defensive side will be Haslett's I guess, that means rather than a HC/OC/DC model we will be in more of a NYJ type model where the HC is mostly concerned about one side of the ball. I don't really like that model.

Not every OC calls plays

True just didn't know of he was the official OC but it appears as he is

Redskin great Jerry Smith will be on "A Football Life" tonight at 9 EST. Should be interesting.

sign rak/hall/riley, get byrd/OT/WR, draft OG. i wouldn't mind another CB or swapping hall for talib etc either. i think we've got enough money to get it done, especially with the old guys we'll be able to toss this year.

I think Lotus needs to chime in with the "why can't we be normal" chant now.

Rather than having everybody step into their new roles, it almost seems like the whole offensive staff will have a bit less than the normal at their position. HC's in this day and age have too many other issues, time management, challenges and reviews, etc, for them to be calling plays. And since the defensive side will be Haslett's I guess, that means rather than a HC/OC/DC model we will be in more of a NYJ type model where the HC is mostly concerned about one side of the ball. I don't really like that model.

Ha! Now the shoe is on the other foot! :)

Our model seems to work ok for the Saints. Payton is essentially OC and play caller for them.

But in light of this and your well-taken critique, the question then becomes, "Is Jay Gruden the next Sean Payton?"