Hall of Fame Finalists 2014

No Joe Jacoby, Charles Mann, or Mo Elewonibi. What a travesty.

No Joe Jacoby, Charles Mann, or Mo Elewonibi. What a travesty.

Travesty indeed especially for Mann.

Poor Ray Guy goes to the Alumni House bar here every year on announcement day, waiting to hear his name called while local news cameras await. It has become pathetic. Please take Guy out of his misery and put him in the Hall.

Even Andersen? Or are you referring to Ray Guy?

Both.

Kickers are on the field for a handful of times per game. Hard to justify putting one of them in.

Both.

Kickers are on the field for a handful of times per game. Hard to justify putting one of them in.

True, but these two are the greatest ever at their positions. And Andersen is the NFL's all-time leading scorer. They're just as worthy as most of the names on that list.

Both.

Kickers are on the field for a handful of times per game. Hard to justify putting one of them in.

Edit: Double post.

True, but these two are the greatest ever at their positions. And Andersen is the NFL's all-time leading scorer. They're just as worthy as most of the names on that list.

Never said they're not worthy, but what regular player do you bump to vote in a specialist?

That's always going to be the thought process when they vote on kickers. It's just hard to justify it.

I got no problem bumping most of the list for Guy and/or Anderson. They were both head and shoulders above others at their position and consistent weapons for their teams - Guy moreso than Anderson (IMHO).

In:
Andersen, Brown, DeBartolo, Guy, Haley, Jones, Reed (7).

Out:
Bettis, Brooks, Dungy, Greene, Harrison, Humphrey, Lynch, Shields, Strahan, Williams.

Sure, you can make a case for each of the others, but most (Bettis, Dungy, Greene, Humphrey, Lynch, Strahan) strike me as belonging in the Hall of Very Good. Harrison, maybe, but he shouldn't get in before Brown or Reed - they paved the way for him. The harder calls are Brooks and Williams - each was a real game changer (Brooks in particular).

Sure, specialists are only on the field a few plays - but, when they are consistently weapons for their team and demonstrate that over years, then I think it raises the bar. It's tough and I don't think either makes it. I would hope one does (if so, Guy - he, too, was a consistent game changer).

I got no problem bumping most of the list for Guy and/or Anderson. They were both head and shoulders above others at their position and consistent weapons for their teams - Guy moreso than Anderson (IMHO).

In:
Andersen, Brown, DeBartolo, Guy, Haley, Jones, Reed (7).

Out:
Bettis, Brooks, Dungy, Greene, Harrison, Humphrey, Lynch, Shields, Strahan, Williams.

Sure, you can make a case for each of the others, but most (Bettis, Dungy, Greene, Humphrey, Lynch, Strahan) strike me as belonging in the Hall of Very Good. Harrison, maybe, but he shouldn't get in before Brown or Reed - they paved the way for him. The harder calls are Brooks and Williams - each was a real game changer (Brooks in particular).

Sure, specialists are only on the field a few plays - but, when they are consistently weapons for their team and demonstrate that over years, then I think it raises the bar. It's tough and I don't think either makes it. I would hope one does (if so, Guy - he, too, was a consistent game changer).


Haley before Strahan , mind if I ask why ?

Charles Haley NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HaleCh00.htm)


Michael Strahan NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/StraMi02.htm)

Haley before Strahan , mind if I ask why ?

Because Haley was better. Strahan had some monster years and some mediocre/bad years. Haley was consistent throughout his career. I'd say Strahan had a longer career with more numbers but Haley had more of an impact when he was playing.

They both deserve to get in but I'd vote for Haley first too.