HonoluluBlue
01-12-2014, 11:07 PM
Even I feel bad for the Browns and I'm a freaking Lions fan, lol.
I feel they're going for Johnny Manziel in the draft. It's either going to be a spectacularly brilliant move or blow up in their faces. I'm leaning towards the latter as it IS the Browns.
donofriose
01-12-2014, 11:16 PM
The one and done issue is more of a problem than a coach contacting the coach who just got fired.
I feel like a lot of coaches do that due to the "fraternity" of coaches and probably just want information on the organization or what they did (so they can do the opposite). I guarantee some coaches called Mike to get his opinion on the Washington Redskins Organization. Most people don't have nice, unbiased things to say about an organization if they just got fired by them, so I am not sure how much stock candidates are putting into Chudzinski's opinion.
Now the one and done firing would be a bigger flag to me. And how that organization has been run the past decade or two.
HonoluluBlue
01-12-2014, 11:39 PM
The one and done issue is more of a problem than a coach contacting the coach who just got fired.
I feel like a lot of coaches do that due to the "fraternity" of coaches and probably just want information on the organization or what they did (so they can do the opposite). I guarantee some coaches called Mike to get his opinion on the Washington Redskins Organization. Most people don't have nice, unbiased things to say about an organization if they just got fired by them, so I am not sure how much stock candidates are putting into Chudzinski's opinion.
Now the one and done firing would be a bigger flag to me. And how that organization has been run the past decade or two.
Yeah I agree, it's the one and done that is the problem. It was ridiculous to fire him after one year, especially since IMHO the Browns are a franchise QB away from being quite good.
donofriose
01-13-2014, 12:40 AM
2013 NFL playoffs -- Mike Mitchell of Carolina Panthers criticizes officials after loss to San Francisco 49ers - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10283837/2013-nfl-playoffs-mike-mitchell-carolina-panthers-criticizes-officials-loss-san-francisco-49ers)
irish
01-13-2014, 08:50 AM
After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.
Chico23231
01-13-2014, 09:47 AM
After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.
really? I never really come away super impressed with those 2 as passers.
I usually come away more impressed by the defensive side of the ball. I wonder how good would RG3 with either top 5 defenses?
Starry Plough
01-13-2014, 09:48 AM
After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.
Different circumstances bud. Cam has shown enough progress this season to suggest his development is getting there yes, but Carolina’s revival was more on the D looking formidable at times down the stretch. Same can apply to Kaep. Not that I'm disputing that Robert does need to show improvement going forward, but put a healthy #10 on either of those teams and there would be no discussion about the level he’s at. Keep the faith.
Gary84Clark
01-13-2014, 10:06 AM
After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.
So that must means Kirk Cousins shouldn't even be in the NFL at all.
irish
01-13-2014, 10:42 AM
Different circumstances bud. Cam has shown enough progress this season to suggest his development is getting there yes, but Carolina’s revival was more on the D looking formidable at times down the stretch. Same can apply to Kaep. Not that I'm disputing that Robert does need to show improvement going forward, but put a healthy #10 on either of those teams and there would be no discussion about the level he’s at. Keep the faith.
Agree that Car was more about D than O. I think RG can run with Cam or Kaep (even though he's not nearly as big as they are) I dont think his passing is as accurate as Cam or Kaep. Personally I think if RG plays for either of those teams this year they dont make the playoffs.
skinsfaninok
01-13-2014, 10:44 AM
After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.
Really? I think people are getting confused with these QBs due to winning. Both those guys are run first QBs