Paintrain
03-03-2014, 12:25 PM
Yeah I agree. Said Rak is a Danny guy. Like I said last night, the market to replace Rak is thin and at our position in the draft it's kinda thin for 3-4 olbs.
The franchise tag just gives us leverage to get a deal done as well as to gage the market. No problem with it
I'm in that same camp. Bottom line is while he's not a Matthews, Watt or Ware, he's still the best player we have at that position, the right age and one of our own assets that we've cultivated. I'd like to see a long term deal soon so that we can reduce his '14 cap number but at this point, I'm just glad we avoided the drama of him leaving and being a thorn in our side wearing another jersey.
Lotus
03-03-2014, 12:33 PM
I'm happy to hear that we are tagging Rak. Can't just let him walk away.
whistler
03-03-2014, 12:38 PM
Good, it is what they should do. Do not really see an issue with that unless they plan on signing every big name free agent out there.
No. let him walk. He is not a top tier OLB. If they franchise him that's 11.4 mil (1/3 of the available cap) tied up on an average player. Where they could sign 2 capable free agents. The Skins are not in a position to overpay for a fair to good player that doesn't make big plays on a regular basis.
whistler
03-03-2014, 12:40 PM
That's stupid. Not attacking you of course, you're just the messenger here. But what a ridiculous notion.
Tagging him is reflective of how hard it is to find an elite pass rusher. They hardly ever hit the open market, the only way to get one is draft them high. Or if they actually do hit the market, pay through the absolute nose to get one.
If you want a successful defense in today's passing league, you have to pony up. Some positions are just more important than others. You need a good LT, you need a good QB, you need a good pass rush and you need good CBs. The budget for those positions should be high.
He's not elite! That's part of the reason that they are not a good to great defense. They don't have great talent anywhere!
donofriose
03-03-2014, 12:45 PM
No. let him walk. He is not a top tier OLB. If they franchise him that's 11.4 mil (1/3 of the available cap) tied up on an average player. Where they could sign 2 capable free agents. The Skins are not in a position to overpay for a fair to good player that doesn't make big plays on a regular basis.
It is a one year deal. It won't impact them as much as a multi year deal would.
And going out and signing a bunch of free agents has proven to fail over and over again.
He is not elite but he is on a one year contract. It won't have a huge impact on any future plans they might have.
whistler
03-03-2014, 12:50 PM
It is a one year deal. It won't impact them as much as a multi year deal would.
And going out and signing a bunch of free agents as proven to fail over and over again.
He is not elite but he is on a one year contract. It won't have a huge impact on any future plans they might have.
If it's for 1yr why do it?
Is this the Super bowl year?
Why commit to a one year 11+ million dollar contract when that money can be put into maybe 2 starters? If he thinks he can get 12 million a year, what do you do after this year when he is still demanding 12 mil. per, cut him then?
Franchising him doesn't mean talks stop. The goal for both sides is still a long term deal.
artmonkforhallofamein07
03-03-2014, 12:58 PM
Let his contract expire if you have the ability to replace him, bottom line is the skins cannot replace him this year. I am sure Haslett wants this guy around for his new defense as well. We can still build a solid team with Rak's one year franchise deal. Hell we won the division without 18mil of cap space. Everybody wants to keep going back two years so let's do it with the cap as well.
NYCskinfan82
03-03-2014, 01:24 PM
Kind of torn on this Rak thing, IMO not elite dosent have a 2nd or 3rd move what is he working on in the off season, but we need to keep him. Can't blame him for wanting to make top dollar, QB'S do the same there's no I in TEAM until contract time. Hopefully they can work something out. HTTR.
T.O.Killa
03-03-2014, 01:27 PM
Dont believe that crap about they are debating on wether or not to franchise Orakpo. They are either signing him to a long term deal or franchising him. Period. 2014 He is a Redskin(as long as our name does not change).