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I really don't understand the criticism of Orakpo at all. Not even a little bit. There are not many guys in the league who the offense has to scheme around. Orakpo changes protection schemes.

And why are people assuming he'd like to be a full time pass rusher? He's gotten better in space, I never played football but I would imagine the game is more fun and rewarding when your versatility is put to use.

Good 3-4 outside linebackers are worth a ton of money. It's like a lockdown corner or a stud LT, it's just an expensive position. And there's a reason for that, it's because if you don't have one you're already behind the 8-ball from the jump.

You won't find another player on the free agent market who can make the same impact, and if you want to draft one you need to use a top 15 pick. $10M a season is his floor and he's worth every penny.

I really don't understand the criticism of Orakpo at all. Not even a little bit. There are not many guys in the league who the offense has to scheme around. Orakpo changes protection schemes.

And why are people assuming he'd like to be a full time pass rusher? He's gotten better in space, I never played football but I would imagine the game is more fun and rewarding when your versatility is put to use.

Good 3-4 outside linebackers are worth a ton of money. It's like a lockdown corner or a stud LT, it's just an expensive position. And there's a reason for that, it's because if you don't have one you're already behind the 8-ball from the jump.

You won't find another player on the free agent market who can make the same impact, and if you want to draft one you need to use a top 15 pick. $10M a season is his floor and he's worth every penny.
Exactly.

This thread has definitely jumped the shark.

I really don't understand the criticism of Orakpo at all. Not even a little bit. There are not many guys in the league who the offense has to scheme around. Orakpo changes protection schemes.

And why are people assuming he'd like to be a full time pass rusher? He's gotten better in space, I never played football but I would imagine the game is more fun and rewarding when your versatility is put to use.

Good 3-4 outside linebackers are worth a ton of money. It's like a lockdown corner or a stud LT, it's just an expensive position. And there's a reason for that, it's because if you don't have one you're already behind the 8-ball from the jump.

You won't find another player on the free agent market who can make the same impact, and if you want to draft one you need to use a top 15 pick. $10M a season is his floor and he's worth every penny.


Sir, I am gonna need you to stop making sense. Take that sense-making witchery back where it came from.

I really don't understand the criticism of Orakpo at all. Not even a little bit. There are not many guys in the league who the offense has to scheme around. Orakpo changes protection schemes.

And why are people assuming he'd like to be a full time pass rusher? He's gotten better in space, I never played football but I would imagine the game is more fun and rewarding when your versatility is put to use.

Good 3-4 outside linebackers are worth a ton of money. It's like a lockdown corner or a stud LT, it's just an expensive position. And there's a reason for that, it's because if you don't have one you're already behind the 8-ball from the jump.

You won't find another player on the free agent market who can make the same impact, and if you want to draft one you need to use a top 15 pick. $10M a season is his floor and he's worth every penny.

Not so fast my friend...

Rack is not even the best linebacker on this team. I took a look on the NFL stats Lab and compared him first to the linebackers on our team. Brian only had 10 sacks, 1 Interception, 0 FF and 60 tackles. Kerrigan had 9 sacks, 0 ints, 4 forced fumbles, and 66 tackles in a year where Kerrigan admitted that he was hurt.

Ryan Kerrigan to have minor surgery; talks 4-3 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4515/kerrigan-to-have-minor-surgery-talks-4-3)

Now let's compare Rack to the best player at his position this year... Robert Quinn had 19 sacks 7 Forced Fumbles and 57 Tackles. The second best ranked free agent at the same position is Jason Worilds. He had 64 tackles, 8 sacks and 2 FF. That is not much of a drop off, also Jason is two years younger.

We could also target Michael Johnson who excelled at OLB in a 3-4 system in 2012.

All this to say that we don't need to overpay Brian Orakpo. I would argue that Perry Riley is a more important sign than Rack. Riley is our leading tackler and averaged 79.8 tackles over his four year span on the team.

Did they also account for the all the attention Orapko demanded to help with Kerrigan's stats?

Not so fast my friend...

Rack is not even the best linebacker on this team. I took a look on the NFL stats Lab and compared him first to the linebackers on our team. Brian only had 10 sacks, 1 Interception, 0 FF and 60 tackles. Kerrigan had 9 sacks, 0 ints, 4 forced fumbles, and 66 tackles in a year where Kerrigan admitted that he was hurt.

Ryan Kerrigan to have minor surgery; talks 4-3 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/4515/kerrigan-to-have-minor-surgery-talks-4-3)

Now let's compare Rack to the best player at his position this year... Robert Quinn had 19 sacks 7 Forced Fumbles and 57 Tackles. The second best ranked free agent at the same position is Jason Worilds. He had 64 tackles, 8 sacks and 2 FF. That is not much of a drop off, also Jason is two years younger.

We could also target Michael Johnson who excelled at OLB in a 3-4 system in 2012.

All this to say that we don't need to overpay Brian Orakpo. I would argue that Perry Riley is a more important sign than Rack. Riley is our leading tackler and averaged 79.8 tackles over his four year span on the team.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO93Edk7xtw

Did they also account for the all the attention Orapko demanded to help with Kerrigan's stats?

That could be a valid argument if Kerrigan didn't have the same sack totals in 2012 without Rack due to injury. Ryan had less tackles but Fletcher was a better player in 2012 as well.

Sacks aren't the be-all, end-all. While I DO agree that signing Riley is important, I still feel like getting Rak back is more important. It would be yet another hole to fill with either a draft pick OR another high priced FA.

Rak is going to get a lot of play on the market. There's a reason.