Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins


Schneed10
01-17-2014, 01:22 PM
SO what was Haslett's excuse his prior experience before coming to the Skins. I mean, Mike overriding him on a few plays isn't going to cause the defense to be bad as it was. What we do know is Haslett doesn't like to run the 3-4 so why have him run a system he doesn't want to run? What we also know is Haslett has been a mediocre DC his entire career. Is that Mike's fault too?

This hiring people b/c they are friends is bullshit and pretty much why we stunk the past 4 years.

Haslett doesn't like a 3-4?? He was the defensive coordinator of the Steelers for Cowher in the late 90s.

Ruhskins
01-17-2014, 01:25 PM
SO what was Haslett's excuse his prior experience before coming to the Skins. I mean, Mike overriding him on a few plays isn't going to cause the defense to be bad as it was. What we do know is Haslett doesn't like to run the 3-4 so why have him run a system he doesn't want to run? What we also know is Haslett has been a mediocre DC his entire career. Is that Mike's fault too?

This hiring people b/c they are friends is bullshit and pretty much why we stunk the past 4 years.

That happens everywhere in the NFL. I don't know why people act like this is a new concept.

DynamiteRave
01-17-2014, 01:27 PM
Well, we hired the younger Phillips as TE coach.

Washington Redskins hire Dallas Cowboys TE coach Wes Phillips | Dallas Morning News (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2014/01/washington-redskins-hire-dallas-cowboys-te-coach-wes-phillips.html/)

MTK
01-17-2014, 01:31 PM
SO what was Haslett's excuse his prior experience before coming to the Skins. I mean, Mike overriding him on a few plays isn't going to cause the defense to be bad as it was. What we do know is Haslett doesn't like to run the 3-4 so why have him run a system he doesn't want to run? What we also know is Haslett has been a mediocre DC his entire career. Is that Mike's fault too?

This hiring people b/c they are friends is bullshit and pretty much why we stunk the past 4 years.

96-00 he fielded some good defenses, the lowest they finished yardage wise was 13th, points 20th.

Jim Haslett Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/HaslJi0.htm)

I think lack of talent has been the main factor in his time here.

MTK
01-17-2014, 01:35 PM
That happens everywhere in the NFL. I don't know why people act like this is a new concept.

Well it's the Redskins, so of course everything they do is a complete anomaly.

The NFL is a tight community, so of course people work with those they are familiar and comfortable with, or come recommended by those they know. Isn't this pretty much how the world works anyway??

Chico23231
01-17-2014, 01:53 PM
While haslett is a concern, I'm more focused on who steps into the leadership void of London on that side. Orakpo seems like the logical choice

That Guy
01-17-2014, 01:55 PM
96-00 he fielded some good defenses, the lowest they finished yardage wise was 13th, points 20th.

Jim Haslett Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/HaslJi0.htm)

I think lack of talent has been the main factor in his time here.

but if you compare that to gregg williams or wade phillips, his lifetime of coaching really isn't very good as far as defensive rankings or whatnot. even if you excuse his redskins tenure (which i don't, at least not completely), his track record before then wasn't good either. GW had a top D in 2010, wade in 2012. if you need to go back 14 years to find a year that's not terrible, i mean, come on.

KI Skins Fan
01-17-2014, 03:21 PM
I'm not buying anything, just saying there are some legit reasons that go beyond simply blaming Haslett for everything.

What sort of records did they set exactly?

Here's one:

They gave up the most points ever in a season in the entire history of the franchise - 478

That ought to be enough right there.

MTK
01-17-2014, 03:28 PM
Here's one:

They gave up the most points ever in a season in the entire history of the franchise - 478

That ought to be enough right there.

Yeah that definitely sucks but as we know you can't blame all that on the D. The offense and special teams hung 'em out to dry quite often.

Schneed10
01-17-2014, 03:49 PM
Here's one:

They gave up the most points ever in a season in the entire history of the franchise - 478

That ought to be enough right there.

Poor thinking, bro. You know how many of those points were given up by our special teams alone?

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