skinsfan69
01-15-2014, 09:59 PM
Teams aren't getting rich from jerseys or merch. Gets really tiring to hear that.
Of course not. My point was there is a track record of over saturated marketing and making headlines. That's his right as a business man and owner of the team. I just wish it translated into more wins.
FRPLG
01-15-2014, 11:29 PM
Of course not. My point was there is a track record of over saturated marketing and making headlines. That's his right as a business man and owner of the team. I just wish it translated into more wins.
I do to. I think too many people correlate it with loses in a causal way though and I fail to see how any perceived over-marketing (or whatever) has anything to do with the on-field product.
HailGreen28
01-15-2014, 11:37 PM
Teams aren't getting rich from jerseys or merch. Gets really tiring to hear that.Asking for clarification: I guess you mean individual teams don't make much that way on their own? According to this (http://www.pellegrinoandassociates.com/top-five-revenue-sources-that-drive-value-for-the-nfl/), merch is a big part of what I assume is shared revenue.
Lotus
01-16-2014, 12:01 AM
Asking for clarification: I guess you mean individual teams don't make much that way on their own? According to this (http://www.pellegrinoandassociates.com/top-five-revenue-sources-that-drive-value-for-the-nfl/), merch is a big part of what I assume is shared revenue.
That link only mentions gross sales, not profit from merch.
TheMalcolmConnection
01-16-2014, 05:44 AM
Of course not. My point was there is a track record of over saturated marketing and making headlines. That's his right as a business man and owner of the team. I just wish it translated into more wins.
Do you really think it's him or the market he's in? Around 2000, you could say that, but here we are again, rehashing past sins that are more than a decade old. Even the MEDIA that vilified him during those same years has said he truly has taken a back seat approach. I can see him saying, "Wow, I'd like player x, but hey, your decision." at the VERY worst.
Asking for clarification: I guess you mean individual teams don't make much that way on their own? According to this (http://www.pellegrinoandassociates.com/top-five-revenue-sources-that-drive-value-for-the-nfl/), merch is a big part of what I assume is shared revenue.
Sure it's a significant revenue stream, but big picture teams make much more profit by consistently putting winning teams on the field.
over the mountain
01-16-2014, 10:30 AM
I do to. I think too many people correlate it with loses in a causal way though and I fail to see how any perceived over-marketing (or whatever) has anything to do with the on-field product.
i think being the champs of the offseason = refreshed hope = increased season ticket sales = one of the most profitable NFL franchises
i do think DS was smart in constantly rebranding the redskins which i do believe was an intentional strategy and approach. whether it be signing a big FA or new coach.
but it really is water under the bridge for me. i think ive finally let go of the past 15 years of disfunction and pointing blame.
i thought we all came to a spontaneous and unspoken agreement not to comment on this article/thread bc we all know and are over talking about how DS sucks and loves this team like Lennie loved soft furry things ..... it almost happened.
That's the perfect metaphor.
As to your point, it was surprising to see this thread pop up so long after the article was published. Oh well.
HailGreen28
01-17-2014, 10:20 PM
One can't deny Snyder's incredible success in business, before and with the Skins. But as far as the team goes, a title: "Dan Snyder: Formula for Success" reminds me of the jokes about books like these:
Amelia Earhart's Guide to the Pacific Ocean
America's Most Popular Lawyers
Career Opportunities for History Majors
Detroit - A Travel Guide
Different Ways to Spell "Bob"
Dr. Kevorkian's Collection of Motivational Speeches
Easy UNIX
Everything Men Know About Women
French Hospitality
How to Sustain a Solo Musical Career by Art Garfunkel
Mike Tyson's Guide to Dating Etiquette
The Amish Phone Book
Things I Wouldn't Do for Money by Dennis Rodman
What I Can't Afford by Bill Gates
and
How to Win the Superbowl by Dan Marino
SolidSnake84
01-18-2014, 01:45 PM
So if teams don't get rich from jerseys or merchandise, then how do our redskins stay so profitable? I understand winning puts asses in the seats, which lead to the real money. But the redskins aren't consistent winners, have never been remotely close to a superbowl under Snyder, but we are still one of the top "selling" teams in the NFL.
Honest question here - not trying to be a wise ass. I assumed always that part of what made the Redskins such a "rich" team was that they had all of their seats sold out year after year, was top selling in merchandise, jerseys, etc...
If winning is the major revenue stream, then how are the skins not in trouble financially unless they make just enough from merchandise to keep afloat....