34th Overall Pick


skinsfanthru&thru
05-08-2014, 03:33 PM
6-3 243lbs ? Safety?

He definitely doesn't look 243 unless that happened since the season ended. Dude looks like he's barely 210-220 in these videos which isn't even close to ILB size.

SirLK26
05-08-2014, 04:03 PM
If we drafted Van Noy, I just couldn't see us moving him to safety, regardless of weight. The dude is a monster pass rusher and has great ball instincts. He needs to be around the ball as much as possible, so ILB would be great for him. He's solid in coverage, and I think he could develop into a decent safety, but he's a linebacker all the way, IMO.

MTK
05-08-2014, 04:07 PM
Another 10 lbs or so and he'll be fine for playing inside. He's tall so I think it makes him look slimmer than he really is.

skinsfanthru&thru
05-08-2014, 04:13 PM
Frame wise he reminded me of Jason Taylor a little

warriorzpath
05-08-2014, 04:31 PM
Well, great defenses are just a part of one recipe for a SB. Because in addition to a great defense, Seattle has a consistent offense that can score points when they're needed and also run out the clock, as well as a solid special teams unit. And Denver made it to the SB by riding an offense that just crushed everyone with points. Sure, you can argue that they lost in the end, but the most important thing is that they made it there. San Francisco has a great defense, and they lost to the Ravens in the 2012 SB. The Ravens weren't great at anything, but solid everywhere and just got hot at the right time.

That list could go on. The point is that building a great defense isn't the only way to get to the SB. You can get there with pretty much any combination as long as you're solid overall.

That out of the way, I think you know I'll be happy going secondary at #34, especially if it's Verrett. I just want us to take a great player at a position of need who can contribute early and also in the long run. Really, really can't afford to flub this pick up. Honestly, a great RT makes the most sense at #34, because we won't be going to the SB for a few years yet even if things work out like they're supposed to; we might as well protect RG3 as he improves in the meantime and make sure he's still standing 5 years down the road. Please, Allen, just make a smart choice and I'll be happy.

I understand protecting RGIII, but it can only go so far at the expense of your team as a whole. There's a big disparity between the talent level on offense and defense right now. I know it's not a popular opinion (going against upgrading both sides of the lines), but it's a greater upgrade for the team as a whole if the Redskins upgrade secondary versus any other position or part of the team. Neglecting a major need in the secondary year after year to create a stout offensive line - doesn't make sense to me. It's just really unbalanced. And it also indirectly creates undue pressure on RGIII and the Redskins offense by needing to consistently score more points than a weak defense is giving them up.

RGIII will need to adapt to the weak link at the offensive line in Polumbus. And by all accounts by the current and past regimes, the coaches don't feel he's that bad. The Redskins also can't operate like RGIII is as fragile as a china doll.

At least last season's weak link was upgraded with the addition and shuffle at the center and guard positions.

los panda
05-08-2014, 04:35 PM
where are we posting our mocks?

warriorzpath
05-08-2014, 04:36 PM
... and I'm sold on Deone Bucannon. He has everything and all the potential in the world. Only thing keeping him under the radar is - he's from Washington State.

warriorzpath
05-08-2014, 04:43 PM
Inside linebacker also isn't as great a need as most think compared to what the Redskins coaches think. Keenan Robinson was receiving the highest praise from Haslett during recent workouts. They also have a bunch of veterans there that the Redskins brought in to hedge their bets a bit.

SFREDSKIN
05-08-2014, 04:46 PM
Inside linebacker also isn't as great a need as most think compared to what the Redskins coaches think. Keenan Robinson was receiving the highest praise from Haslett during recent workouts. They also have a bunch of veterans there that the Redskins brought in to hedge their bets a bit.

Disagree, injured 2 years in a row, backups are backups at best.

warriorzpath
05-08-2014, 04:56 PM
Disagree, injured 2 years in a row, backups are backups at best.
Got some insider perspective on how he's developed? Being injured and playing like a backup are 2 different things.

And he was backing up a player that has produced near Hall of Fame numbers.

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