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KI Skins Fan 04-29-2014, 12:51 PM What if Verrett or Bucannon is available at #34, while the best OT, OG, and C available are Billy Turner, Gabe Jackson, and Marcus Martin? Are you really going to pass up one of those two elite prospects for an O-lineman who is a possible upgrade, but a lesser talent? Even if Moses or Bitonio are available, neither are a talent of Bucannon or especially Verrett's caliber. Now, if Su'a-Filo falls, the scenario gets tougher...
Hoping for a run of QBs in the 1st so we can even choose from prospects like Verrett. If Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel, Carr, and hopefully another QB go in the 1st or very early second(like #34), we'll have some great players available to choose from. Perhaps if Carr or some QB Cleveland likes is available at #34, we can trade down 1 spot and get another pick.
The team's draft board will certainly be a factor; however, we all know that teams rank players differently for a number of reasons. Actually, everybody does.
For example, here's where CBS Sports rates some of the players you mentioned:
Verrett 26
Sua-Filo 30
Moses 37
Bitonio 41
Bucannon 65
If the Redskins' rankings were the the same as the CBS Sports rankings, then the Skins might be inclined to take either Moses or Bitonio at #34 with the idea that Bucannon might be available to them in the third round.
SirLK26 04-29-2014, 12:58 PM The team's draft board will certainly be a factor; however; we all know that team rate players differently for a number of reasons. Actually, everybody does.
For example, here's where CBS Sports rates some of the players you mentioned:
Verrett 26
Sua-Filo 30
Moses 37
Bitonio 41
Bucannon 65
If the Redskins' rankings were the the same as the CBS Sports rankings, then the Skins might be inclined to take either Moses or Bitonio at #34 with the idea that Bucannon might be available to them in the third round.
True. Last year, I thought both Amerson and Thomas were 2nd rounders. And then we ended up getting Amerson in the 2nd and Thomas in the 4th.
But if the Redskins board looks like CBS Sports', I might give up football. Bucannon is a borderline 1st round selection; absolutely no way he's available in the 3rd. I personally think he's better than Pryor and Clinton-Dix; the best safety available, in fact. But that's not the point of your post. I agree with you.
sevier2 04-29-2014, 01:48 PM Amerson has the potential to be our best player on defense in a couple of years
I like Thomas quite a bit, but he's coming off a very serious injury
Fingers crossed on LeRibeus
Rambo may simply be destined to be a backup, and if that's the case then he has to learn to play special teams. Because backup defensive backs who don't play special teams hardly exist
I agree people somehow forget most top players in the league didn't come in and dominate year one. Amerson has that potential and showed a lot of promise his first year.
As for Rambo, didn't look to good out there. However, if he can develop and play special teams like you said I have no problem with him as a backup. Year 1 was way too much for him but we'll see how he adjusts.
Chico23231 04-30-2014, 12:17 PM Does anybody like Dee Ford out of Auburn as a 3-4 OLB pass rusher? I might if he falls to us.
Right now my preferences for our first pick:
1. Jimmie Ward
2. Dee Ford
3. Morgan Moses
KI Skins Fan 04-30-2014, 01:18 PM Yet another great article by Rich Tandler from yesterday:
"The Redskins could use an infusion of young talent from next month’s NFL draft. The problem is that that have only six picks and they are missing a first rounder. They could improve their chances of landing good contributors and perhaps even a star player or two by acquiring more draft picks.
One way is to trade away players on the roster but the Redskins are not an exceptionally deep team (that’s why they need help from the draft) and the chances of anyone coming up with an offer for any player besides Kirk Cousins are slim. And the backup QB might not be going anywhere.
The other option is to trade down. Let’s take a look at what the Redskins might be able to get in a swap down from their initial spot, No. 34 overall, by using the draft value trade chart. The chart is just a guide but it gives us a ballpark idea of what the picks are worth.
Right now, the only team with an extra second-round pick is the 49ers, who hold overall picks 56 and 61. The could package those picks to move up to No. 34 and they might ask for the Redskins’ fifth-round pick to even things out. The issue here is that the Redskins would not be adding to their quantity of picks but the quality would improve.
The Redskins could pick up an additional pick around the middle of the third round by moving back to the latter stages of the second round. A move back of about 20 spots to 53rd overall is worth a mid-third-round pick.
To pick up a fourth they would need to move back about 10 spots, moving back five or six spots is worth a fifth.
Trading down in the third or fourth is a possibility but the trade value chart tells you that those moves yield only late-round picks. Still, the more picks you have the better chance there is of finding an Alfred Morris sometime on Saturday.
Moving up (My note: I think he meant to write "down" here) is not as simple as many fans may make it out to be. The Redskins would have to be on the clock with multiple options as to two to select. A team behind them would want to have a particular player who is on the board badly enough to give up picks in what has been called the deepest draft in years."
EARTHQUAKE2689 04-30-2014, 04:56 PM My top choices:
Jace Amaro TE, Texas Tech
Darqueze Dennard CB, Michigan State
Stephon Tuitt DE, Notre Dame
Louis Nix III NT, Notre Dame
Jimmie Ward FS, Northern Illinois
skinsfaninok 04-30-2014, 05:17 PM Mine are
1. CYRUS KOUANDJIO, OT, ALABAMA
2. J . Verrett, CB , TCU
3. D. LAWRENCE, OLB, BOISE
The Dull Roar 04-30-2014, 05:44 PM Here are mine:
1. Ryan Shazier, ILB, Ohio
2. Morgan Moses, OT, UVA
3. Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois
4. Louis Nix III, NT, Notre Dame
5. Cyrus Kuoandjio, OT, Alabama
SirLK26 04-30-2014, 05:48 PM Mine, in no particular order.
Jason Verrett, Morgan Moses, Kyle Fuller, Deone Bucannon, Jace Amaro, Stephen Tuitt, Jimmie Ward, Ryan Shazier
Lotus 04-30-2014, 05:54 PM Does anybody like Dee Ford out of Auburn as a 3-4 OLB pass rusher? I might if he falls to us.
Right now my preferences for our first pick:
1. Jimmie Ward
2. Dee Ford
3. Morgan Moses
I like Dee Ford but if it were me instead I'd go with Ward, Moses, Amaro, or Nix.
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