Let's talk about the front office situation

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Redskins_P
12-31-2013, 03:58 PM
I see that yes, but redefining the characteristics of players recruited has EVERYTHING to do with scheme.

I think he meant that he's going to trust what Morocco & Scott tell him and draft/sign FA's with their input as opposed to going to Shanny for final say.

I'm sure they aren't going to recruit players before they know what scheme the new HC will be running. That's completely retarded.

Schneed10
12-31-2013, 03:58 PM
Also, who is the "we" he is speaking of when he says they are redefining characteristics? Is it a Royal we? Is it he and Snyder? Or is it he, Brown, and Campbell?

And in any of these cases, why should HE be part of that decision? He is not a personnel guy?

And why would they make these changes without even knowing the scheme of their next head coach?

You're not allowed to talk anymore. Go back and study harder for the reading comprehension component of the SAT.

WillH
12-31-2013, 03:59 PM
Well maybe it is a misread on my part, but if he meant that once they have a new coach they will redefine the players they're going after, why not say that?

Instead he said we will redefine and yeah of course a new coach will want to make schematic changes, but I make the decisions.

Redskins_P
12-31-2013, 04:00 PM
you're not allowed to talk anymore. Go back and study harder for the reading comprehension component of the sat.

lol

Lotus
12-31-2013, 04:00 PM
" We are going to redefine some of the characteristics that we’re looking for in players. Obviously when we have a new head coach, there will be some schematic adjustments that we will make. But that power will be with me.”

That sounds to me like they have already made schematic decisions, and I just don't get that, what coach would come in knowing he had little say over the scheme they run? Sounds like a Zorn situation to me.

With the bolded statement BA is saying that he will follow the preferences of a new head coach, not override those preferences. Your worry there is misplaced in BA's own words.

Look at it this way: Shanahan has unique tastes in linemen. We do not have to cater to those tastes any more, regardless of who the next coach is. I think this is what BA was trying to say.

WillH
12-31-2013, 04:02 PM
You all keep saying the same thing and acting like I am completely off-base, but he very clearly says the decisions on scheme lie with him, why is that ok with everyone?

Redskins_P
12-31-2013, 04:05 PM
You all keep saying the same thing and acting like I am completely off-base, but he very clearly says the decisions on scheme lie with him, why is that ok with everyone?

Because he clearly does not say that. He said that a new coach will bring schematic changes and they will pick their players based on the best fit for said scheme. Why is that so hard to understand? You keep trying to twist and bend his words so you can make yourself and us believe your logic. It's very simple. Pick a new coach, draft and sign players that fit his scheme.

MTK
12-31-2013, 04:10 PM
Well this got dumb really quick.

saden1
12-31-2013, 04:12 PM
He was not a GM in the traditional sense. He had no control over player personnel. It was a Bill Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, I-buy-the-groceries-and-cook-the-dinner model.

Snyder hired Allen with a true GM model in mind, but to get Shanahan to sign on the dotted line he had to give him full control. That rendered Allen's true GM role useless, so Snyder had him doing other things.

Now Snyder has given Allen true GM power with player personnel decisions.

You're telling me a man that gets hired for the GM job only to be rendered powerless after the hiring of a head coach should not be viewed as a lackey?

I suppose you and I have a different view of the definition of lackey.

over the mountain
12-31-2013, 04:13 PM
Many Redskins fans are writing off Bruce Allen like he is not a legit executive. His strength is that he is a strong executive and will run the franchise like a business. He will rely on his team to help him make good decisions. Don't be surprised to see AJ Smith and Scott Campbell representing for us at the draft. I hope that we add someone for the 49ers front office staff.

a good executive in my book means knowing his place in the chain of command.

i really liked how bruce came out and laid things straight yesterday with a seemingly clear and firm game plan. I am worried that as a good executive he will submit to his boss who no one can deny likes to put his hand in the pot and feel like he is doing more than writing checks.

surprised bruce came out and gave mike the verbal middle finger .. i do wonder if that was to please DS by taking a clear shot at mike.

i really dont get why we are knocking shanahan's draft picks. the worst draft pick was a 3rd round OL guy ..... i really liked the roster he put together under the circumstances.


if DS does meddle i am going to be seriously seriously pissed off. this structure and environment as it stands now is ripe for DS meddling.

i think bruce is more a yes man vs sticking up to DS and it scares me

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