Let's talk about the front office situation

You mean like he has for the last four years when Shanahan had TOTAL control over football operations?

No, I mean what I wrote earlier in the thread


If you heard JLC this morning on the junkies- he delivered a pretty striking sermon regarding the Redskins current FO situation. He didn't have as much pessimism about finding a good coach, but implied that the Dan Snyder can only skin a cat two ways.



Having the head coach (a la Shotty, Gibbs, and Shanny) have complete control, even when they aren't qualified to do so. Gibbs was not ever known to build a roster. Shanahan was fired from Denver for personnel gaffes as well.




Or having the front office take control, with Snyder directly involved a la Jerry Jones.


The current look right now is the latter of the two, and JLC was extremely pessimistic about the chances of success for the Redskins, as am I. Bruce Allen's strengths have never been personnel (he's earned his experience through contracts/negotiations with agents), and now we're going to have to live through another round of Danny boy fiddling with the roster

I can't see why it's so damn hard to hire a true GM and step back and let the process play. He wants to be involved, and beyond that I think he LOOOOVESSS to be involved. It's his team and he can do whatever he wants.

I really hope this isn't the case, because we're in for another long stretch folks if it is.

Let me be clear. I am advocating for a true GM because I think these two previously (repeatedly) used templates for running the organization suck.



Give a coach 100% control over football operation. (Shottenheimer, Gibbs, Shanahan)
Handcuff F/O and coach with Quasi-GM bureaucratic mess (Spurrier, Zorn)



My proposed solution is for a true GM (not Snyder's right hand man), with respectable football organizational and social skills to provide a coaching staff with the tools for success.

Perhaps Allen and co can succeed with this template, but I'm worried about the influence Snyder has on the team, due to the track record. I'm hoping more changes come, and Snyder openly and officially steps back and let's the football guys do what they know how to do.

I like Allen in this role because I don't think he would be the guy who will make the personnel decision. I think he is a good leader who understands how to delegate responsibility and will lean on the advice of his scouting group.

Surely he will also be smart enough to take advice from the coach on scheme fit.

My biggest beef all along has been no separation between church and state. Meaning, I hate how Shanahan had both final say on personnel and coaching decisions. It's impossible to remain objective and it's just too much for one person to worry about.

You want someone who knows how to coach and can identify scheme fit. You want someone who really knows how to scout and can identify talent. And you want someone capable of balancing it all and making sensible decisions, without being too deep into the weeds - that's Allen.

Cerrato never used the scouting department. And if Shanahan ignored them, that was a mistake too. Supposedly they are well-regarded. They'll have more input into personnel decisions than Allen will, he'll just be the guy enabling them to do it, and pulling the trigger.

[QUOTE=Schneed10;1052458Cerrato never used the scouting department. And if Shanahan ignored them, that was a mistake too. Supposedly they are well-regarded. They'll have more input into personnel decisions than Allen will, he'll just be the guy enabling them to do it, and pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]

I really hope that is what Allen meant when he said he wanted to give Scott Campbell & Morocco Brown a chance to succeed. The more I think about it the more I get the feeling that Allen will use his resources and let them do the work their supposed to do and most importantly TRUST their work.

Mr. Allen, I know a boss when I see one and you sir are no boss. For 4 years you were collecting a paycheck as the GM of this team when in reality Shannahan was the GM and you were the GM in name only. Now you want us to believe you are the boss? Is that your jet flying around picking up the Griffins? Is that your limo chauffeuring the wife of a particular player? You and your BOSS disgust me. May the lord save us from your "leadership."

Shanahan would be proud that his message of BS got through... to some at least.

While maybe not having a true GM was a mistake, I get so tired of hearing how poor of an owner Snyder is. We rehash and rehash facts from almost ten years ago. Sure, I'd love a more traditional model since we like to do things the ass-backwards way, but saying Allen is just a yes-man after Snyder backing off for years is quite a stretch when there's nothing to prove otherwise.

Shanahan would be proud that his message of BS got through... to some at least.

No kidding. What an incredible level if ignorance that statement took.

A good GM delegates everything and manages those people, just like a good HC.

Let me be clear. I am advocating for a true GM because I think these two previously (repeatedly) used templates for running the organization suck.



Give a coach 100% control over football operation. (Shottenheimer, Gibbs, Shanahan)
Handcuff F/O and coach with Quasi-GM bureaucratic mess (Spurrier, Zorn)



My proposed solution is for a true GM (not Snyder's right hand man), with respectable football organizational and social skills to provide a coaching staff with the tools for success.

Perhaps Allen and co can succeed with this template, but I'm worried about the influence Snyder has on the team, due to the track record. I'm hoping more changes come, and Snyder openly and officially steps back and let's the football guys do what they know how to do.

I agree we need a true GM, but I am not sold that Snyder had shown the ability to hire a competent one that he trusts to run the show