Let's talk about the front office situation

I grew up eating a lot of great food but I couldn't cook you up an 8 course dinner.

I grew up the son of a plumber but I don't know sh**!

It is normal to have:
1) a GM whose expertise is personnel
2) a coach whose expertise is on the field

Yet we have not adopted that approach for many years and our current set-up still does not reflect that approach. Why can't we just be normal?

It is normal to have:
1) a GM whose expertise is personnel
2) a coach whose expertise is on the field

Yet we have not adopted that approach for many years and our current set-up still does not reflect that approach. Why can't we just be normal?

For all intents and purposes, morocco brown and Scott Campbell are co-gms

For all intents and purposes, morocco brown and Scott Campbell are co-gms

That's actually my point. Looked at your way, we do not have a single, responsible, buck-stops-here GM. If you say that the buck-stops-here guy is Allen, then our GM is not a personnel guy. Either way we miss the mark on a model that many find ideal.

Hopefully dust has not fully settled yet and we'll end up with BA as CEO, a real GM (maybe even Morocco or Campbell), and a real coach.

How would a co-GM role work anyway? Would Brown and Campbell vote with BA entering the fray only as a tiebreaker?

Also, until Brown or Campbell carry the title of GM, they can more easily be hired away to GM other teams.

The reality is if you toss out half baked thoughts on something you're not 100% informed on, you have to expect some level of mocking in return. Nobody is perfect obviously and we all make mistakes so it's all good. Try not to take it personal, I think we've all been "corrected" at times here.

I appreciate your response. I'm glad you put "corrected" in quotations, because corrected would imply to me intelligent conversation in which people are informed of mistakes by explaining where they are thinking wrongly, and not attacks on a person's intelligence. Perhaps this is just a half baked thought of mine though.

I will be sure to not to post anything I'm not 100% informed on in the future. Sorry for taking it personally. Thank you!

Let me be clear. I am advocating for a true GM because I think these two previously (repeatedly) used templates for running the organization suck.



Give a coach 100% control over football operation. (Shottenheimer, Gibbs, Shanahan)
Handcuff F/O and coach with Quasi-GM bureaucratic mess (Spurrier, Zorn)



My proposed solution is for a true GM (not Snyder's right hand man), with respectable football organizational and social skills to provide a coaching staff with the tools for success.

Perhaps Allen and co can succeed with this template, but I'm worried about the influence Snyder has on the team, due to the track record. I'm hoping more changes come, and Snyder openly and officially steps back and let's the football guys do what they know how to do.

I really don't understand your position, but it seems to be one based out of pure speculation/distrust of Snyder. By most all accounts he stayed out of Gibbs and Shanahan's way, and mostly out of Cerrato's way as well. You say he has a track record, but his last 8 years of owning the team has been mostly with him on the outside letting the people he thought he could trust handle it. He is still a work in progress as an owner, but he's by no means the same guy who fired Marty brashly.

I just hope we get something that works for the Skins, regardless of how long the process takes

It is normal to have:
1) a GM whose expertise is personnel
2) a coach whose expertise is on the field

Yet we have not adopted that approach for many years and our current set-up still does not reflect that approach. Why can't we just be normal?

I look at it this way. This set up is better than having the coach have all the power. For the most part, that way hasn't really worked. I think we're fine. It seems Brown will run the pro personnel side and Campbell works college. Allen has the final say. It sounds like he's going to lean heavily on those two. Not sure why anyone has a issue with this set up. Allen has been the GM of two Super Bowl teams. I trust him.

I really don't understand your position, but it seems to be one based out of pure speculation/distrust of Snyder. By most all accounts he stayed out of Gibbs and Shanahan's way, and mostly out of Cerrato's way as well. You say he has a track record, but his last 8 years of owning the team has been mostly with him on the outside letting the people he thought he could trust handle it. He is still a work in progress as an owner, but he's by no means the same guy who fired Marty brashly.

I just hope we get something that works for the Skins, regardless of how long the process takes

You are saying exactly what he said, he gave Gibbs/Shanahan full control, what you are not getting is that when he gives full control it is to someone without experience/talent for picking players.

Most teams have a GM that is known for having an eye for talent and team building. BA is not known for these things. SO the question is:

Why can't he give full control to someone with personnel experience?

He didn't just grow up on football. He grew up on Redskins football. I feel like he's one of us.




So with that thought Jason Garrett should be a super bowl coach by now , right ?I mean he grew up with his dad a coach with a couple of teams and the Cowboys (scout)

So with that thought Jason Garrett should be a super bowl coach by now , right ?I mean he grew up with his dad a coach with a couple of teams and the Cowboys (scout)

Garrett goes to the Super Bowl every year in preseason predictions. So there's that.