Musgrave.

Well, through the internet I've been able to find a lot of educated fans from other teams. I like to get their opinions about the skins, give mine on their team, and find out general other stuff. Anyhow, talked to a Jags fan today and asked him about Musgrave, this is the response I got:

HE SUCKS.

He's too conservative, he runs the same three plays in a row, and he refuses to go down field with a young QB (leftwhich.)

If this analysis is correct he sounds just like Gibbs and the opposite of what we needed. What do you guys think?

he's not there to call plays, only to work with ramsey and from what i've read about him he has helped develop some very good qbs.

Well, through the internet I've been able to find a lot of educated fans from other teams. I like to get their opinions about the skins, give mine on their team, and find out general other stuff. Anyhow, talked to a Jags fan today and asked him about Musgrave, this is the response I got:

HE SUCKS.

He's too conservative, he runs the same three plays in a row, and he refuses to go down field with a young QB (leftwhich.)

If this analysis is correct he sounds just like Gibbs and the opposite of what we needed. What do you guys think?

Wow now we got Gibbs and his lesser apprentice but gibbs says he will try more down field stuff but who knows?

what we need to hope is that our oline doesnt get banged up next year. Because its goign to be the same type of crap as this year, its going to depend on the running game first. So as long as Portis is dominatnig with a good oline we will win, if not....well then we pray that in the huddle Ramsey says he is going to look long first...

heh, Running through all those people is the hard part!

what we need to hope is that our oline doesnt get banged up next year. Because its goign to be the same type of crap as this year, its going to depend on the running game first. So as long as Portis is dominatnig with a good oline we will win, if not....well then we pray that in the huddle Ramsey says he is going to look long first...

amen to that,it all starts upfront,if we have the protection and the recievers are hanging on to the ball,Gibb's knows when to take the shots,at least he used too,I dont think he tried it enough last yr,but I dont watch game films or see practice,and he's obviously privy to something we dont know,so I forgive him for last yr,but Ramsey has to have protection to be effective

Musgrave is not here to call plays or do game plans-only to coach up Ramsey. Musgrave is a top shelf QB coach. Ramsey needs coaching up- no matter what the majority of you think.

Musgrave is not here to call plays or do game plans-only to coach up Ramsey. Musgrave is a top shelf QB coach. Ramsey needs coaching up- no matter what the majority of you think.

I agree with your first two statements, and slightly disagree with your last statement about Ramsey needing "coaching up. "

First, Gibbs even admits he learned a lot last season - principally he needs to "open-up" the offense. So, even if Musgrave was conservative in Jacksonville, I don't think that means we'll retain our conservative approach on offense.

Second, Musgrave is supposedly a pretty damn good position coach. Being a bad offensive coordinator doesn't necessarily mean he won't be a good QB coach again.

As to your last point that Ramsey needs coaching up.....I agree that Ramsey needs additional coaching (as any young QB does). But, I think Ramsey needs experience more than coaching. It typically takes a QB a full two seasons of starting to develop. Thus far, Ramsey's started 23 games. Moreover, those 23 games were under two different head coaches, three different offensive coordinators, and over the course of three seasons. I think he needs a solid coaching staff (which he has) and a chance to start a number of consecutive games (which he hasn't had).

Gibbs didn't open up the offense last year becuase everytime he saw Brunell throw long it went ten yards out of bounds...what was the point then. Once Ramsey came in it was too late in the season. The oline was a mess, the wr's were dropping all sorts of short passes. I think Gibbs system may not be a perfect fit for the nfl today, but it certainly will work a lot better with a better oline...I feel that's were it all starts. If we can get some protection for Portis and Ramsey we will have a very fun team to watch this year.

On this site - which is the best Redskins site bar none - we have been known to have, shall we say, sour grapes, about those who have left the Redskins employ.

Pierce? a system guy.

Smoot? He'll regret leaving.

Bailey? *%#&%$!!!

It doesn't surprise me that Jag fans are blaming Musgrave for their woes. They were, before last season, a sweetheart pick for the Super Bowl. He wasn't so bad then.