GTripp0012
12-22-2013, 05:19 PM
He and Kyle built a good offense. We just need RG3 healthy.Is this really a good offense? -7.1% DVOA this year. Zorn's offenses posted an +8.2% in 2008 and -8.3% in 2009. Spurrier's offenses put up a -7.0% in 2002 and -6.7% in 2003.
This level of offense has gotten Snyder to change coaches before.
The Goat
12-22-2013, 05:24 PM
Mike is a bad coach, period. His offense is inconsistent and defense and special teams horrible. He has no business as a pro coach. Neither does his jackass kiddo.
HailGreen28
12-22-2013, 05:44 PM
Is this really a good offense? -7.1% DVOA this year. Zorn's offenses posted an +8.2% in 2008 and -8.3% in 2009. Spurrier's offenses put up a -7.0% in 2002 and -6.7% in 2003.
This level of offense has gotten Snyder to change coaches before.First off, DVOA is about as meaningful as ESPN's new Quarterback rating system. That being said, comparing one year to the next: 2012 DVOA when we had RG3 healthy for most of it: 16.1% (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff2012)
Stats (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&tabSeq=2&season=2012&role=TM&Submit=Go&archive=true&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=false) I care about: 2012 offense was #5 in the NFL yds/G, #4 pts/G, and our rushing was #1 yds/G and #4 pts/G.
Tell me with RG3 healthy we aren't an offensive juggernaut.
Serious question for anyone who thinks Mike deserves another year.
WTF is wrong with you?
GTripp0012
12-22-2013, 05:53 PM
First off, DVOA is about as meaningful as ESPN's new Quarterback rating system. That being said, comparing one year to the next: 2012 DVOA when we had RG3 healthy for most of it: 16.1% (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff2012)
Stats (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&tabSeq=2&season=2012&role=TM&Submit=Go&archive=true&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=false) I care about: 2012 offense was #5 in the NFL yds/G, #4 pts/G, and our rushing was #1 yds/G and #4 pts/G.
Tell me with RG3 healthy we aren't an offensive juggernaut.With RG3 healthy we are not an offensive juggernaut.
I think if you can make a really good case in favor of this rushing offense being as strong as any, but the passing game was an adventure every one of the last four years. Even last year, I thought the passing game was sloppy and unproductive at 3-6. That changed on the seven game winning streak when they put in some spread plays that Griffin ran at Baylor, but they haven't used that part of the playbook this year, and we can't execute anything else.
The bigger point is that THIS LEVEL OF OFFENSE GETS PEOPLE FIRED. So whether or not the team is likely to rebound with an influx of talent and a more confident RG3 is irrelevant. Coaches know you can't let it sink to this level and keep your job. The Cousins play was the last bullet in the barrel. Shanahan is defenseless.
diehardskin2982
12-22-2013, 05:54 PM
I wonder if this Redskins experience has hurt his chances to Join the Hall of Fame?
GTripp0012
12-22-2013, 05:56 PM
I wonder if this Redskins experience has hurt his chances to Join the Hall of Fame?Hurt? Yes of course. Will it prevent him from getting in? It probably should, but the HOF process is highly politicized, and this is only going to hurt him if he gets on the wrong side of too many of the voters. Losing two votes for the Washington area voters is likely not the difference.
budw38
12-22-2013, 06:00 PM
Steve Spurrier won 7 games with , Ramsey (R) , Mathews and Wuerffel as our qb's . MS has had 4 years , and this is the worst team I think I have ever seen in Washington . Sorry Mike .... you must go .
skinsfaninok
12-22-2013, 06:14 PM
Steve Spurrier won 7 games with , Ramsey (R) , Mathews and Wuerffel as our qb's . MS has had 4 years , and this is the worst team I think I have ever seen in Washington . Sorry Mike .... you must go .
It's not a think it is , this is worse than zorn
EARTHQUAKE2689
12-22-2013, 06:17 PM
Serious question for anyone who thinks Mike deserves another year.
WTF is wrong with you?
brain aneurysm??