The re-sign Orakpo thread

The frustrating thing is that we continually botch the opportunity to draft difference making pass rushers. In 2005, we selected Carlos Rogers when Demarcus Ware was there for the taking. In 2009, Orakpo seemed to be a no-brainer, yet Clay Matthews who was selected 13 picks later has been far more impactful. In 2011, both J.J. Watt AND Robert Quinn were on the board when our pick came up. Shanny traded down, and we took Kerrigan at #16. While Kerrigan is a good player, and a great team citizen, he will probably never play to levels that Watt and Quinn have already displayed. If Rak is signed to big money, let him keep his damn hand in the dirt and go after the QB. He is a liability in coverage, yet this staff insists on putting him in space more than occasionally. I think he could be an excellent 4-3 DE, and hopefully the next regime considers that.

Orakpo and Kerrigan could easily be considered an elite rusher in the right system. The natural tools and raw talent are there. It's time they got coached up and became the best pair of pass rushers in the league.

The frustrating thing is that we continually botch the opportunity to draft difference making pass rushers. In 2005, we selected Carlos Rogers when Demarcus Ware was there for the taking. In 2009, Orakpo seemed to be a no-brainer, yet Clay Matthews who was selected 13 picks later has been far more impactful. In 2011, both J.J. Watt AND Robert Quinn were on the board when our pick came up. Shanny traded down, and we took Kerrigan at #16. While Kerrigan is a good player, and a great team citizen, he will probably never play to levels that Watt and Quinn have already displayed. If Rak is signed to big money, let him keep his damn hand in the dirt and go after the QB. He is a liability in coverage, yet this staff insists on putting him in space more than occasionally. I think he could be an excellent 4-3 DE, and hopefully the next regime considers that.I don't know if Matthews has been far more impactful. He's had the best single season of the two, but he's missed more time, and their overall impacts have been about the same.

I don't know if Matthews has been far more impactful. He's had the best single season of the two, but he's missed more time, and their overall impacts have been about the same.

Clay is overhyped he's just an avg player

Clay is overhyped he's just an avg playerBetter than average, but easily frustrating. Amazingly unblockable when healthy. But plays on a defense that's been bottom quarter in the league three consecutive years.

The frustrating thing is that we continually botch the opportunity to draft difference making pass rushers. In 2005, we selected Carlos Rogers when Demarcus Ware was there for the taking. In 2009, Orakpo seemed to be a no-brainer, yet Clay Matthews who was selected 13 picks later has been far more impactful. In 2011, both J.J. Watt AND Robert Quinn were on the board when our pick came up. Shanny traded down, and we took Kerrigan at #16. While Kerrigan is a good player, and a great team citizen, he will probably never play to levels that Watt and Quinn have already displayed. If Rak is signed to big money, let him keep his damn hand in the dirt and go after the QB. He is a liability in coverage, yet this staff insists on putting him in space more than occasionally. I think he could be an excellent 4-3 DE, and hopefully the next regime considers that.

Yeah Quinn is the type of player we're missing. A difference maker. Rak and Kerrigan are not on his level. But didn't Quinn have issues coming out of NC? Tht's why he dropped in the draft if I remember. It would have been risky pick for us but It sure as hell would've paid off.

Did you know:
Orakpo has ZERO career sacks against Dallas.
Orakpo has 4.5 total career sacks against all NFC east teams combined.

Josh Wilson has as many career sacks against Dallas as Orakpo.
Josh Wilson has as many career sacks against the Giants as Orakpo (1)

We should be able to pay someone a lot less and get that production.

$40-50Mil would be the max I would give him.

Wow....that is not good.

oh God, i forgot about kruger's robbery.

good point, matty.

whatever it is, we need to give it to him. he'll never be a demarcus ware-type talent, but he's the best we have, and we need to keep him.

That's the nature of free agency though. We see a signing every year that really makes no sense, but because of teams wanting to win so badly they overpay. Watch...we'll overpay for someone come March.

Clay is overhyped he's just an avg player

Wouldn't call him average but he isn't as good as the NFL media folk makes him out to be in my opinion. A lot of other teams have better edge rushers.

Clay> Rak

Every top defense in the league has their stong point:

49ers: Linebackers
Panthers: Front Seven
Chiefs: Linebackers and Dontari Poe
Cardinals: That massive defensive line that keeps their LBs clean all game.
Seahawks: Legion of Boom. (I feel the loss of Browner will hurt them in the playoffs.)

We have a strength with our edge rushers in Rak and Kerrigan. We need a MLB to replace Fletch and a defensive lineman that constantly pushes the LOS back. With that it will help the secondary develop a la Carolina. There are some good up and coming prospects in the draft that I hope we take a look at. Point is we re-sign Rak and that re-build becomes a lot easier.

Redskins with Rak > Redskins without Rak.