Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread

KC needs to be a little more careful when letting it rip. He's a bit too aggressive sometimes where RG is too careful at times.

KC needs to be a little more careful when letting it rip. He's a bit too aggressive sometimes where RG is too careful at times.

Russell said the coaches think as much. There are pros & cons to KC's play. It leads to some turnover issues (con) but also leads to big plays and lots of yards (pro).

The problem with RG being overly cautious this year is that he's getting all the turnover problems with none of the big-play upside.

Personally, I see a lot of Rex in Cousins. He does operate the offense efficiently, but he has turned the ball over at an alarmingly high rate. The fact that people seem to be overlooking that, simply because he racked up a lot of yards is a symptom of confirmation bias. He's got nine total turnovers(8 INTs, 1 Fumble) in 12 quarters of football.

Until he tightens up that part of his game, I will be refering to him as Rex, Jr.

Lotus made the exact same observation on this site sometime last year. Apparently, it is an attribute he displayed in college too.

Yeah and a big reason we lost is due to all the turnovers. That simply can't be overlooked no matter how many yards he throws for.

So, I missed the game this weekend. Drove to SC and back on Sunday. Heard a little right at the NC/VA border on the radio but only the score at which point it was 17-14 Atlanta, then right before I lost the station I heard the score was 20-17 Skins. I picked back up right after Morris's fumble to the end of the game.

I'd heard the announcers say something about Kyle Shanahan and the new gossip about him talking about leaving and how he's a prima dona around the office. etc. etc.

Heard how MS is likely to remain cause his contract is solid and thats from a lawyer. Otherwise Snyder pony's up 13 mill. < I personally doubt that happens. I think he stays.

So my prediction: MS is our HC next year, KS quits after the season to help facilitate...Kubiak being brought in to help his dad plus they think alike offensively. Haslett I'm unsure of but I hope he's fired and perhaps Lovie is offered the job with the intention he takes over after next year when DS does fire MS.

No to further my prediction: RG3 I think was either DS idea or KS's. RG3 is not MS's QB. So I can see this off season both RG3 and KS working hard and studying film. However I'm betting KS surpasses RG3 and probably gets the nod by MS to start. Remember this is MS's last year and if he's going to get fired might as well piss off the owner by not playing RG3 and play the guy who seems to have better pocket presence and gets through his progressions.

KC needs to be a little more careful when letting it rip. He's a bit too aggressive sometimes where RG is too careful at times.

Sometimes you have to unleash the dragon!

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Seriously now, are we that delusional and in denial about the state of our favorite team that we will believe a team will trade their first round pick in which they can get a Winston or Mariotta, or even that kid from Northern Illinois, to get a Skins backup?

I haven't heard any mention of Cousins being traded for a first round pick. I am not sure if that is speculation on your part or what you think the intent of the FO for Cousins is.

... Heard how MS is likely to remain cause his contract is solid and thats from a lawyer. Otherwise Snyder pony's up 13 mill. < I personally doubt that happens. I think he stays.

So my prediction: MS is our HC next year, KS quits after the season to help facilitate...Kubiak being brought in to help his dad plus they think alike offensively. Haslett I'm unsure of but I hope he's fired and perhaps Lovie is offered the job with the intention he takes over after next year when DS does fire MS.

No to further my prediction: RG3 I think was either DS idea or KS's. RG3 is not MS's QB. So I can see this off season both RG3 and KS working hard and studying film. However I'm betting KS surpasses RG3 and probably gets the nod by MS to start. Remember this is MS's last year and if he's going to get fired might as well piss off the owner by not playing RG3 and play the guy who seems to have better pocket presence and gets through his progressions.


^^ So, you acknowledge Shanahan has an ironclad contract which prohibits firing for anything related to coaching/player decisions (i.e. Shanny cannot be fired for benching Snyder's "favorite" QB). Yet, you dispute that Shanahan had final say on drafting RGIII. Interesting.

Clearly, in your world, A=B and B=C but A does not equal C.

I personally never felt the warm fuzzy from RG3. I despised RG3 cause a co worker gushed over him so much it made me vomit. I like Cousins at this point. But being honest both have the potential to be really good. Meaning RG3 is going to need to be in a offense that utilized his mobility a lot especially if he never develops the ability to get past his 2nd read. If RG3 can pick up all the intangibles; reading defenses, pump faking, staying in the pocket when he needs to, going through all his progressions then he definitely will be one of the best QB's to ever play the game. But if he can't .... he'll just be another decent QB that had tons of mobility and the forever talk of mobile QB's never winning a SB will continue.

I think right now Cousins is the better QB for MS's offense. Not the Spread/Read Option, but what MS usually runs. I think in the short term Cousins is the guy any HC would want and need.

Just reading some of what people posted during the game made me want to comment:

1- "QB not the problem the playbook is." I think it kinda is (bye KS) but also think it's the QB not getting through his progressions and adjusting his shitty OL for protection.

2- "Kyle leaving after the season." I think he and dad are not on the same page, but he might leave to save his dads job. Kubiak takes over for KS and this team shines next year.... perhaps with Cousins.

3- "MS will be fired", "MS staying cause of the cost to let him go." I think he stays.

4- "Cousins is good but we need to trade him for a top pick since we don't have a #1 pick this year." I don't think so. If Cousins runs MS's offense better I'd almost say trade RG3 to a team that uses the Spread/Read Option like the Eagles need him bad. We have $36 mill to play with. We should be able to find someone in FA that is considered a #1 pick to off set that. Maybe a WR, or RT, or MLB or something.

At this point I'd prefer to keep both RG3 and Cousins and not trade anyone. Work with both over the off season and see which one is the better QB for MS's system next season and play them. If RG3 made strides and it's him then awesome play him. However I'm worried RG3 doesn't make that HUGE jump over Cousins before next year and this team dumps off the better QB for MS's system. Then we have another losing or mediocre year.

I also hate the label "Franchise QB." To me no one knows and to label someone now is crazy. Look at Jason Campbell, I kept seeing how he was our "Franchise QB" and how we needed keep him and develop him so on and so forth. JC turned out to be nothing but a good back up. Maybe cause of all the hits he took or maybe cause he couldn't get through his progressions like RG3 can't, but to label him now just because we want one so bad and want this team to solely back one QB for 10yrs is ludicrous if RG3 continues to have trouble developing.

Yeah and a big reason we lost is due to all the turnovers. That simply can't be overlooked no matter how many yards he throws for.

True, but this was only his second game. Not his second year in the game. To be honest I still think a lot of this might be MS's system. Grossman had a ton of INT's and we blamed Grossman. Probably he deserved it. Some thought Beck was going to change all that but didn't. I know they are not the best QB's. McNabb came in and kinda did no better. I know McNabb is a has been.

I just think any QB in MS's system is going to be required to throw the ball to a specific spot prior to the WR breaking on the ball and unless the WR runs a perfect route it will look like the QB threw the ball too early or to the wrong spot. Also I think it gives defenses a good chance for an INT if they know the play being run and know where and when the ball is supposed to go based off the play formation. Either we except the system has flaws and work around that or can the HC and system. < the latter might be in order since most fans are done with MS now.