Goodbye Kyle?

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JoeRedskin
12-16-2013, 11:13 AM
Amazingly it actually is better even outside the locker room, just shows how bad it once was.

I think Snyder is aware that some people in his organization, while great at their assigned jobs, probably aren't going to win any congeniality awards. But he may not know the lengths they go to.

I've been approached a handful of times about joining that organization, and every time I meet with them I come away thinking it's really an every man for himself mentality there.

<sigh> That just royally sucks. Until that changes, it seems to me the best we can hope for is mediocrity - doesn't matter who coaches the team.

SmootSmack
12-16-2013, 11:41 AM
<sigh> That just royally sucks. Until that changes, it seems to me the best we can hope for is mediocrity - doesn't matter who coaches the team.

It's a chicken or egg situation in some ways. These issues, at the very least, get buried when we're winning. But at the same time they play a big role in why we don't win more often

MTK
12-16-2013, 11:43 AM
It's-forgive me here-a bunch of half-truths

Even with half truths, there is still a lot to be concerned about there.

Chico23231
12-16-2013, 11:46 AM
It's a chicken or egg situation in some ways. These issues, at the very least, get buried when we're winning. But at the same time they play a big role in why we don't win more often

Why doesnt someone recognize this and take action? Whose the responsible party to do that?


How come Im starting to feel like Shanny returns next year?

skinsfan69
12-16-2013, 11:49 AM
Why don't the sales and marketing people work over in Landover? That way they're away from the football people. Real simply process...the football people work one place, the sales people work in another place. Or they might already do that...

SmootSmack
12-16-2013, 12:04 PM
Why don't the sales and marketing people work over in Landover? That way they're away from the football people. Real simply process...the football people work one place, the sales people work in another place. Or they might already do that...

Some work at Landover, but most work at Redskins Park. Just like it would be for any NFL team

SmootSmack
12-16-2013, 12:09 PM
Why doesnt someone recognize this and take action? Whose the responsible party to do that?


How come Im starting to feel like Shanny returns next year?

I don't think Shanny comes back next year, but I think he and Snyder are in a game of chicken right now

As to the first part of the question, I don't know. Ultimately it's about deciding if you want to be a football team or a business. I mean every football team is a business. Some, like the Steelers, have historically been able to make a winning football team the primary driver of their business. But when you lose, you have to take other measures..and that's when it gets uncomfortable for all parties.

The first thing I would do is make Bruce Allen the President of the team. He's got the know how to do it. Put him firmly in charge of the organization, all aspects of it and let him hire the people he wants to make the team and the business better.

MTK
12-16-2013, 12:11 PM
I don't think Shanny comes back next year, but I think he and Snyder are in a game of chicken right now

As to the first part of the question, I don't know. Ultimately it's about deciding if you want to be a football team or a business. I mean every football team is a business. Some, like the Steelers, have historically been able to make a winning football team the primary driver of their business. But when you lose, you have to take other measures..and that's when it gets uncomfortable for all parties.

The first thing I would do is make Bruce Allen the President of the team. He's got the know how to do it. Put him firmly in charge of the organization, all aspects of it and let him hire the people he wants to make the team and the business better.

Totally agree.

NC_Skins
12-16-2013, 12:15 PM
The first thing I would do is make Bruce Allen the President of the team. He's got the know how to do it. Put him firmly in charge of the organization, all aspects of it and let him hire the people he wants to make the team and the business better.


So is he inclined to hire M. Brown for GM or to bring in other people to interview for the job?

SmootSmack
12-16-2013, 12:19 PM
So is he inclined to hire M. Brown for GM or to bring in other people to interview for the job?

Well you know that I, and others (mainly others) have heard that it's Brown's job to lose or give up. But I'd like to think Allen has other people in mind.

And I mean maybe Brown would be great at the job. I'm just not totally convinced

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