Goodbye Kyle?

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SmootSmack
12-16-2013, 12:56 AM
I don't know that Morocco has earned the right to just be anointed GM

SouperMeister
12-16-2013, 01:20 AM
Kyle Shanahan, staff inexperience at core of Redskins dysfunction (http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24375961/kyle-shanahan-staff-inexperience-at-core-of-redskins-dysfunction)Good riddance, Boy Wonder. Don't let the door hit you in the ass...

NC_Skins
12-16-2013, 01:30 AM
I don't know that Morocco has earned the right to just be anointed GM

So I take you are in favor of bringing in a cast of people and let the best man win eh?

As long as it isn't Pioli or some other retread, than I'm fine with it.

SmootSmack
12-16-2013, 07:36 AM
So I take you are in favor of bringing in a cast of people and let the best man win eh?

As long as it isn't Pioli or some other retread, than I'm fine with it.

Yeah, test the waters some

diehardskin2982
12-16-2013, 08:55 AM
I would love to see a Bruce Allen/ AJ Smith combination. AJ in charge of player acquisition, while Bruce handles contract negotiation and facilities development.

Jayroc24
12-16-2013, 09:01 AM
Good lord, this drama is starting to sound alot like Cerrato is back in charge.

firstdown
12-16-2013, 10:31 AM
I disagree. Mike is out an make no mistakes about it. Mike and RG3 have issues working with each other. Mike and Snyder have issues.... do the math. push come to shove Snyder would fire him but I think the negotiate an out.

I think your wrong about that.

MTK
12-16-2013, 10:40 AM
I disagree. Mike is out an make no mistakes about it. Mike and RG3 have issues working with each other. Mike and Snyder have issues.... do the math. push come to shove Snyder would fire him but I think the negotiate an out.

Insert Kyle for Mike and you're on to something.

JoeRedskin
12-16-2013, 10:43 AM
... But you've got guys in sales, marketing, etc. who are just difficult people to work with/for. And, look I'm not saying they're the leaks, I'm just saying there are people in that building that I just don't trust.

That is disheartening to hear. As I understood it, Cerrato encouraged these types of attitudes within the organization through his own blame shifting ways. When he was fired, and I praised the "culture change" that I believed Mike Shanahan and B. Allen were bringing to the organization. Unfortunately, whether half truths or not, it appears there are some elements of truth to some of the various leaks about Kyle & Mike's motives.

Thus, while it seems obvious that Mike brought in "team" players and changed the culture of the locker room, it appears the deeper cancer within the organization has not been cured. In light of recent disclosures about Kyle and Mike, it appears that individuals who lack integrity, seek to shift blame and protect themselves by stabbing others in the back are still able to ply their through a lack of integrity. Certainly, Mike and Kyle have both been, at a minimum, disingenuous about their motives and by doing so demonstrate an organizational lack of integrity ("Hey, I am trying to be honest with you. I don't normally do that.").

My question is ... does DS know he has untrustworthy people working for him? Does he care? For these people, is all that matters to Dan that they "produce" in their specific line of responsibility (i.e. they are great marketers but backstabbing, lying SOB's)?

Mike may have fixed the integrity of the locker room, but it appears he has continued business as usual throughout the rest of the institutional structure. If true, this is on Snyder. The lack of institutional integrity will torpedo any organization and, ultimately, ensuring the Skin's institutional integrity is the responsibility of the Snyder.

SmootSmack
12-16-2013, 11:05 AM
That is disheartening to hear. As I understood it, Cerrato encouraged these types of attitudes within the organization through his own blame shifting ways. When he was fired, and I praised the "culture change" that I believed Mike Shanahan and B. Allen were bringing to the organization. Unfortunately, whether half truths or not, it appears there are some elements of truth to some of the various leaks about Kyle & Mike's motives.

Thus, while it seems obvious that Mike brought in "team" players and changed the culture of the locker room, it appears the deeper cancer within the organization has not been cured. In light of recent disclosures about Kyle and Mike, it appears that individuals who lack integrity, seek to shift blame and protect themselves by stabbing others in the back are still able to ply their through a lack of integrity. Certainly, Mike and Kyle have both been, at a minimum, disingenuous about their motives and by doing so demonstrate an organizational lack of integrity ("Hey, I am trying to be honest with you. I don't normally do that.").

My question is ... does DS know he has untrustworthy people working for him? Does he care? For these people, is all that matters to Dan that they "produce" in their specific line of responsibility (i.e. they are great marketers but backstabbing, lying SOB's)?

Mike may have fixed the integrity of the locker room, but it appears he has continued business as usual throughout the rest of the institutional structure. If true, this is on Snyder. The lack of institutional integrity will torpedo any organization and, ultimately, ensuring the Skin's institutional integrity is the responsibility of the Snyder.

Amazingly it actually is better even outside the locker room, just shows how bad it once was.

I think Snyder is aware that some people in his organization, while great at their assigned jobs, probably aren't going to win any congeniality awards. But he may not know the lengths they go to.

I've been approached a handful of times about joining that organization, and every time I meet with them I come away thinking it's really an every man for himself mentality there.

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