2014 draft prospects Early edition

The Rams trade basically was trading for a franchise QB. Luck went #1 and Russell Wilson got a ring. Outside of those two what other franchise QBs have been drafted? None. It will become obvious the skins won the trade when the Rams have to swallow and try to find a QB.


Rams have added lots of players and Clemens looked better than Sam. Those two WRs from West Virginia so far haven't done much. They got Quinn, they would have gotten at least one impact player anyway. Rams got more picks in quantity, but we won a division title and they have yet to make the playoffs.

Where you are wrong is you think RG3 is a franchise QB. He had a nice rookie season running a unconventional offense where he rushed for 800 yards and 7 to 8 td's. He's not going to be able to do that and have a long career. Right now he can't carry the offense w/out running as we saw last year. Let's hope there's a better balance with him, passing and some running.

I disagree. Two years is plenty. More time just allows for revisionism.

Sounds like calling the winner of a race after a 1/4 mile when there's still another mile to go. More time allows for more results, and isn't that what we're judging?

told ya'll bout Dri Archer. Blazing Speed

Uh oh. Stephon Tuitt is having foot surgery.

Notre Dame's Stephon Tuitt not cleared for combine - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap2000000328559/article/notre-dames-stephon-tuitt-not-cleared-for-combine)


Maybe he'll drop a round and we can grab him later.

Uh oh. Stephon Tuitt is having foot surgery.

Notre Dame's Stephon Tuitt not cleared for combine - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap2000000328559/article/notre-dames-stephon-tuitt-not-cleared-for-combine)


Maybe he'll drop a round and we can grab him later.

Ain't gonna happen, but it would be great to get him with our 3rd round pick.

Sounds like calling the winner of a race after a 1/4 mile when there's still another mile to go. More time allows for more results, and isn't that what we're judging?

No, you fool, we are judging the process. If the process is perfect - drafting talent in its expected place; finding "bargains" and making trades that appear to get more value than they give up - then you have had a successful draft. It doesn't matter who the players are.

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Grading a draft is so subjective, even when to grade is subjective. There are extremes like (obviously bad) NO trading it's entire draft to us in order to get Ricky Williams to say, Baltimore's (great) 1997 draft in which it turned it's two first round picks into two HOF'ers (Lewis and Ogden). In each case, it was pretty clear from the get go that the draft was good or bad.

Most, however, have to wait. A few years ago (2007) everyone raved about Cleveland's ability to trade into the first round to get Brady Quinn and how they were so astute to do so. Three years later, doesn't look too smart to trade up for BQ. Ultimately, in my opinion, barring obvious "fails", like not getting your card up in time or obvious FO dysfunction in the pick, it is just silly to judge a draft on anything other than player production.

Regardless how they got picked - good value, bad value, blah blah blah ... what did the rookies picked produce? Everybody starts every draft with the same base number of picks. Some are traded away, some are gained ... at the end of the day, who got the most productive (qualitatively and quantitatively) rookies out of a draft. That's who had the best draft.

O-Line and D-line. Everyone else looks good when you have all day to throw and run, and opponent QB's have no time.

Seattle's DB's don't cover very well, they just don't need to cover very long.

Would you consider letting Rak walk if we signed Greg Hardy to play a JJ Watt type of DE and drafted Dee Ford to take the OLB position?

Maybe he'll drop a round and we can grab him later.[/quote]

I will take him in the second if the doctors clear him. Tuitt is 300lbs + with sub 5.0 speed who can stuff the run, and rush the passer.

^ Yeah, it would be a risk that would likely backfire to think he'd drop to Round 3.