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BaltimoreSkins 11-21-2013, 11:20 AM Same here, his last years in Denver, he was going through D coordinators on a regular basis. Unlike many, I had no problem going from the 4-3 to 3-4, nor did I have any expectation the transition would be easy or "quick". It was a fundamental change which, had it worked, would have been fine by me. [I personally think the 3-4 the more flexible set and, therefore, better set - particulary as the game evolves into more of a passing era.]
Unfortunately, Haslett just hasn't gotten it done. Sure, back-end talent has been an issue but, sorry, the D hasn't executed and has schemed well. I hope going forward, we get a creative D coord who find ways to stop the medium and big gains and who gets his D off the field -- other than by allowing the other team to score.
I am grateful to Shanny for exorcising the ghost of Vinny, for working through the draft, for not giving up on younger players and creating the idea that "fairness/performance" govern who plays. (Although, recently, it seems this last has been given less emphassis).
Barring a 180 degree turnaround by the D and parts of the O, it is time to say good bye to Shanny before all the good he has done is undone by a descent into losing and defeatism.
The toughest thing about the 3-4 IMO is that there are just not enough quality teams running it in college and therefore not enough quality nose tackles in the NFL comparatively. I do agree that if you have the pieces up front it is the better D.
Starry Plough 11-21-2013, 12:30 PM The toughest thing about the 3-4 IMO is that there are just not enough quality teams running it in college and therefore not enough quality nose tackles in the NFL comparatively. I do agree that if you have the pieces up front it is the better D.
Addressing the focal point of any unit (in the case of the D, the NT position) is certainly the most logical way of moving forward, which is why I’ve come away from some drafts scratching my head.
2010 for example, we needed someone to replace Chris Samuels. We took Trent (as well as 5 other offensive players) and he’s working out well. He’s not having a pro-bowl year by any stretch, but then none of the team is. Bottom line, we needed a franchise blind-side protector and the pick therefore made sense.
2011 though, and they turned their attention to the D. Priority seemed to be on improving the pass rush and so Kerrigan was taken in the 1st, Jenkins in the 2nd. Now, don’t get me wrong, I like Ryan. I think he’s a solid player who could look even better if he had an elite rusher on the other side, but the point I’m making is in a 3-4, it all starts with the guy in the middle of the 3, and everything else comes next. In other words, we should have been looking towards the best NT available, the build around that vital cog. Phil Taylor for example shot up draft boards that year and was picked later in the first round. But instead we seem to make attempts at solving problems (I won’t discredit the effort btw, especially considering the draft is always reliant on chance as much as doing your homework), but it’s almost done in a hit and hope manner (definitely more on the defensive side of the ball) as much as anything and typifies why we haven’t made enough sustained progress in the 4 years of the transition to a 3-4 scheme as we maybe should IMO.
I always thought Smootsmack = Morocco Brown.
SmootSmack 11-21-2013, 01:09 PM I always thought Smootsmack = Morocco Brown.
Shhh
redskins5044 11-21-2013, 01:31 PM Shanny should just leave after the season and enjoy retirement until he goes into the hall
Of fame.
Paintrain 11-21-2013, 02:11 PM I posted my vote for Lovie Smith although I know it's a long shot. I think he'd be a great coach to develop the defense and he's low drama as well. Offensively, as someone said earlier, we've got the pieces in place to be dynamic so we don't need a mastermind on that side of the ball. I'd prefer someone whose philosophy is similar to the scheme Shanahan built the team around so there wouldn't have to be dramatic turnover on that side of the ball.
Ray Horton, Sean McDermott John Pagano and Perry Fewell are also on my radar because I want the next coach to be defensive minded.
If we go offensive minded, I like Ken Wisenhunt.
Bucket 11-21-2013, 02:17 PM Not surprised Shanahan is in the lead here. Similar poll is on Extremeskins, and he's winning there too.
I applaud you Warpath.
skinsguy 11-21-2013, 05:01 PM I always thought Smootsmack = Morocco Brown.
If that's the case, then please everyone welcome the new head coach of the Washington Redskins, David Shaw.
NC_Skins 11-21-2013, 05:03 PM Mike Shanahan’s poor defenses with the Redskins and Broncos speak volumes - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/mike-shanahans-poor-defenses-with-the-redskins-and-broncos-speak-volumes/2013/11/20/7a919636-5222-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html)
@ThomasBoswellWP
Here is rank in Pts Allowed of Haslett's last 12 teams as DC or coach ('13 back to '01): 30, 22, 21, 21, 31, 31, 28, 28, 27, 14, 26, 27. OMG
Fire this fucking guy already. God damnit Mike.
@fakeC_Russell
TEXT from Jim Haslett: "Tell Tom Boswell two things. 1) Screw off and 2) Stick to baseball."
:laughing2
(note the above tweet is entertainment, Jim didn't send that text)
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