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skinsguy 11-26-2013, 09:47 AM Mike Shanahan has really struggled here and it's time for a change. But I'm not going to ignore all that he's accomplished in his career, or make up stuff because I think he shouldn't be the HC of this team anymore
Exactly. Overall, Mike Shanahan is a heck of a coach and he has accomplished a lot in his career. Anybody who says otherwise is just being silly. I say to those guys, hate him as a Redskins head coach if you must, but saying he hasn't accomplished much as a coach in the NFL is pretty foolish. At this point now, even I say it's time to move on from Mike Shanahan. Doesn't change my respect for him, but it's clearly time for him to move on from Washington.
Green Monk Machine 11-26-2013, 09:54 AM Mike Shanahan has really struggled here and it's time for a change. But I'm not going to ignore all that he's accomplished in his career, or make up stuff because I think he shouldn't be the HC of this team anymore
He doesn't have my vote for HOF. There are plenty of coaches who have won Super Bowls and while its impressive he did back to back, making a few adjustments to a loaded team doesn't make him a genius. He's been fighting to repeat success and has failed miserably.
The shanahan legacy is a joke to me
SmootSmack 11-26-2013, 10:00 AM Is the changing of the culture something we have evidence of, or is it the kind of thing that happened, but we'll never actually see it because our feet aren't close to the dirt?
I don't spend as much time at Redskins Park as I once did, but I do drop in from time to time. And those who spend a lot of time will also tell you it's not like the "lazy, get your paycheck and go home" Spurrier era, nor the "watch your back, don't trust the person next to you" Cerrato/Zorn era. There are some football related disagreements but most everyone will tell you the culture in the locker room and across the organization is quite strong, not Joe Gibbs strong, but strong nonetheless...which is what makes this all so puzzling
Chico23231 11-26-2013, 10:05 AM I don't spend as much time at Redskins Park as I once did, but I do drop in from time to time. And those who spend a lot of time will also tell you it's not like the "lazy, get your paycheck and go home" Spurrier era, nor the "watch your back, don't trust the person next to you" Cerrato/Zorn era. There are some football related disagreements but most everyone will tell you the culture in the locker room and across the organization is quite strong, not Joe Gibbs strong, but strong nonetheless...which is what makes this all so puzzling
I believe that for sure. You can tell imo the culture is a better place than it was before.
The only thing is Shanny seems to rub some players the wrong way. Like Morgan and Fred Davis. He loved Fred Davis last year, but this year FD is skipping meetings, sleeping in meeting, etc. Someone wasnt pro active or this wasnt handled correctly. Or why was he even brought back when we needed money...
CrustyRedskin 11-26-2013, 10:46 AM I don't spend as much time at Redskins Park as I once did, but I do drop in from time to time. And those who spend a lot of time will also tell you it's not like the "lazy, get your paycheck and go home" Spurrier era, nor the "watch your back, don't trust the person next to you" Cerrato/Zorn era. There are some football related disagreements but most everyone will tell you the culture in the locker room and across the organization is quite strong, not Joe Gibbs strong, but strong nonetheless...which is what makes this all so puzzling
If that's the case and i believe it, then its just plain ol piss poor x's and o's /coaching personnel and game mamagment.
I really don't know who I want, but I know who I don't. Lovie and Shanahan.
SouperMeister 11-26-2013, 11:17 AM I've seen enough. I actually voted Shanahan in the poll. Mike/Kyle are making Griffin a sitting duck, and almost never move the pocket or bootleg to buy him more time. RG3 is getting killed behind this turnstile of an O-line, and the weekly beating he is subjected to has reached Ramsey proportion during the Spurrier years.
skinsfaninok 11-26-2013, 11:29 AM I really don't know who I want, but I know who I don't. Lovie and Shanahan.
Me too
30gut 11-26-2013, 12:05 PM (1) A GM from a stable organization that knows how to draft
(2) HC I want someone that has either been groomed as an NFL HC, meaning they've been in a coordinator position at the NFL level long enough to have seasoning and their unit must be good. I want a HC that has experience/background on offense but especially in the passing game and for the QB position. If they know the WCO that's a plus.
(3) OC must have NFL experience as a QB coach he doesn't have to be a playcaller because if we hire an offensive minded HC they might want to be the playcaller. Would be willing to promote a former QB coach that has worked/had success with a young QB.
(4) QB Coach want a coach from the college ranks that really knows the spread offense.
(5) DC- I WANT SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO CALL A 34 DEFENSE
My ideal combination:
GM Scott Pioli
HC Tom Clements (GB) or Pete Carmichael Jr (NO)
OC Rick Dennison (TX after that staff gets canned)
QB Zac Taylor (MI after they get fired)
Passing Game Coordinator or create a position for: Phillip Montgomery (Baylor)
DC Romeo Crenel or Keith Butler (Steelers)
mbedner3420 11-26-2013, 12:08 PM I can't say that I really like any of those selections...
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