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donofriose 11-22-2013, 10:09 AM Even if we have the DC of all time this defense would still suck. Not sticking up for Haslett, just this defense lacks talent at key positions.
The saints were dead last a year ago in total defense, they were actually one of the worst defenses of all time. They gave up 440 a game.
They didn't change much on the roster besides Vaccaro.
Ryan has done a great job turning that D around, him and Rex know their defense and even with the lack of talent on Washington, I think they both could make this unit one of the better units in the NFL. Maybe top 10.
redskins5044 11-22-2013, 10:24 AM The saints were dead last a year ago in total defense, they were actually one of the worst defenses of all time. They gave up 440 a game.
They didn't change much on the roster besides Vaccaro.
Ryan has done a great job turning that D around, him and Rex know their defense and even with the lack of talent on Washington, I think they both could make this unit one of the better units in the NFL. Maybe top 10.
i can agree with that, but also i believe some of our D struggles can be linked to our offensive struggles. When your offense can jump out to early leads it becomes easier to play defense. The league is so up and down from year to year. Last year Rob's defense struggled in Dallas, so who knows what they will be next year.
The Goat 11-22-2013, 10:40 AM i can agree with that, but also i believe some of our D struggles can be linked to our offensive struggles. When your offense can jump out to early leads it becomes easier to play defense. The league is so up and down from year to year. Last year Rob's defense struggled in Dallas, so who knows what they will be next year.
The cowboys lost 7 or 8 starters on defense last year, biggest reason for their struggles.
donofriose 11-22-2013, 10:42 AM i can agree with that, but also i believe some of our D struggles can be linked to our offensive struggles. When your offense can jump out to early leads it becomes easier to play defense. The league is so up and down from year to year. Last year Rob's defense struggled in Dallas, so who knows what they will be next year.
I agree with the offensive thought. You cannot go 3 and out or have turnovers consistently and expect your defense to come up big every single time. Just look at the Jets D, they are one of the worst scoring defenses in the NFL but that is due to how bad that offense is at times. So I agree that the Saints offense has helped that D.
Last year with Dallas, pretty much every important player was injured. Ware was playing with one arm the last game of the season. Plus look what happened to their D once Ryan left... they are now historically bad.
Kindoy 11-24-2013, 03:17 PM _____________________________
I don't pretend to be an expert or an NFL GM... I don't think the failure of the defense is all on JH... He is an average Coordinator and we could upgrade... We lack serious talent on that side of the ball... The front 7, what was supposed to be our strength this year, is average on a good day... And our secondary minus Hall (this year alone) is well below average... I'm not really sure what you can ask of him... He calls the plays, it's up to the players to execute, which they can't... I think Kyle receives too much criticism as well... Only Reed and Garcon can create separation on a consistent basis... The O-line can only block for so long... IIIsus has had a recovery/sophomore slump season... Once again players have to execute....
I think the bottom line is that we lack the talent and depth of good teams... We simply are not a good team talent wise... If you want to blame someone, blame Mike....
our secondary… with… hall... is well below... average…
KI Skins Fan 11-24-2013, 06:12 PM Lovie got two votes!!! Lovie finally got some love!
Jay Gruden got a pity vote, too. SmootSmack, you are a big, soft-hearted Teddy Bear.
GusFrerotte 11-24-2013, 08:17 PM Gary Kubiak is probably going to be canned after this season. Why not have Shanny bring him in? Might be fun for all!!!!!!
VTSkins1961 11-24-2013, 08:25 PM Gary Kubiak is probably going to be canned after this season. Why not have Shanny bring him in? Might be fun for all!!!!!!
Negative. All Shanny's must go.....
mbedner3420 11-24-2013, 08:54 PM Gary Kubiak is probably going to be canned after this season. Why not have Shanny bring him in? Might be fun for all!!!!!!
I've been considering this too. Should Mike be retained and Kyle wish to pursue other opportunities, it makes sense to try and grab Kubiak as our OC. I'm still more interested in who our DC would be, assuming Mike stays.
mbedner3420 11-24-2013, 08:57 PM Lovie got two votes!!! Lovie finally got some love!
Jay Gruden got a pity vote, too. SmootSmack, you are a big, soft-hearted Teddy Bear.
Why does Bevell on have two votes (one of which is mine)? He will undoubtedly be a top HC contender at the end of the season. He's got a great pedigree, and should get some strong consideration from several teams.
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