Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

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skinsguy
12-04-2013, 04:57 PM
We have discussed, debated, and argued over Dobert this year.
With all the perspectives involved, what is really the best for the team, fans, and future?
To me, it's embracing the nfl. Either accept it for what it is, or suffer and be left out 4 weeks into and 4 weeks before the regular season ends.

The way the conversation has continued, it seems many of you have accepted read option and want to see more of that. The endless problems I see with the read option begin with mind numbing blatant issues.....

The NFL is an evolving game that brings about new wrinkles in the offense and defense with each passing decade. Knowing this, you might want to go back and rethink your post. Secondly, Griffin was not hurt on a read-option play against Baltimore. He was hurt simply trying to scramble.

I basically want to see more of whatever is successful. If it's smash mouth football, I want to see more of that. If it's the read option, bring it on. If it's bombs away - as long as the freakin' wide receiver catches the ball. You guys argue way too much about things you have no control over.

MTK
12-04-2013, 05:04 PM
It's mind numbing that some continue to focus in on the read option like it's the entire offense, when it reality it's a just play we might run a handful of times per game.

I like what Chip Kelly recently said about it:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians recently called the read-option offense a “great college offense.” Eagles coach Chip Kelly doesn’t see that as a slap at his approach, because Kelly doesn’t think he runs the read-option offense.

“I don’t think it’s an offense,” Kelly told reporters on Thursday. “I think it’s a play. And we don’t run read option if you want to get really technical. We run a zone read play every once in awhile. It’s like saying our offense is a power offense because we run the power play. Or the old Green Bay Packers, their offense was the Green Bay sweep offense and it isn’t. Everybody’s got a bunch of plays they run offensively, whether everybody’s got a quick game, everybody’s got screen, everybody’s got drop back, everybody’s got out‑of‑pocket, power, counter, inside zone. I never looked at it as an offense.”

Chip Kelly dubs his attack the “See Coast Offense” | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/28/chip-kelly-dubs-his-attack-the-see-coast-offense/)

donofriose
12-04-2013, 05:21 PM
It's mind numbing that some continue to focus in on the read option like it's the entire offense, when it reality it's a just play we might run a handful of times per game.

I like what Chip Kelly recently said about it:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians recently called the read-option offense a “great college offense.” Eagles coach Chip Kelly doesn’t see that as a slap at his approach, because Kelly doesn’t think he runs the read-option offense.

“I don’t think it’s an offense,” Kelly told reporters on Thursday. “I think it’s a play. And we don’t run read option if you want to get really technical. We run a zone read play every once in awhile. It’s like saying our offense is a power offense because we run the power play. Or the old Green Bay Packers, their offense was the Green Bay sweep offense and it isn’t. Everybody’s got a bunch of plays they run offensively, whether everybody’s got a quick game, everybody’s got screen, everybody’s got drop back, everybody’s got out‑of‑pocket, power, counter, inside zone. I never looked at it as an offense.”

Chip Kelly dubs his attack the “See Coast Offense” | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/28/chip-kelly-dubs-his-attack-the-see-coast-offense/)

Yea a play that I believe was ran 12% of the time somehow defined an entire offense.

People make it sound like the Skins are Auburn or Georgia Tech.

MTK
12-04-2013, 05:25 PM
And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.

donofriose
12-04-2013, 05:30 PM
And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.

Yea Sean Payton is an idiot too than I suppose.

The only thing I would like to see completely removed is that pitch option. Every time I see that I cringe because I am scared for the day where RG3 pitches it as he is getting hit, exposing his body, and then doesn't get up.

Lotus
12-04-2013, 05:55 PM
And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.

Yup. Many teams put TE's and/or WR's in the backfield these days.

Paintrain
12-04-2013, 05:57 PM
And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.

My issue with such alignments is when we have basically 10 people in the box (usually in 2 RB 2 TE 2 WR sets) with only one WR split out wide and QB, TE, WR, RB in the backfield. There's no room to be explosive out of that set.

HailGreen28
12-04-2013, 06:02 PM
Yea Sean Payton is an idiot too than I suppose.

The only thing I would like to see completely removed is that pitch option. Every time I see that I cringe because I am scared for the day where RG3 pitches it as he is getting hit, exposing his body, and then doesn't get up.Yeah, I like the pitch option in theory on the defensive end. But seems like by the time RG3 reaches a LB or secondary guy at the LOS to make a pitch option, he's already too close to the sideline to do much good.

skinsfan69
12-04-2013, 06:04 PM
And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.

Using New Orleans is a poor example because they obviously spread the field and pass the ball as well as anyone. Besides, I don't see New Orleans running two man routes, or throwing 10 wr screens in one game. This offense was good last year, but Kyle had to have known that the defenses would catch up to it somewhat. Therefore he needed to have another change up....aka...hurry up offense, maybe more shifting and changing up his formations a bit more. It's not all on him, plays have been left out on the field.

HailGreen28
12-04-2013, 06:05 PM
And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.WRs seems like a personnel mismatch to me. I'd prefer RBs and HBs and TEs there. I don't think that formation with WRs has done us any good, has it?

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