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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-23-2005, 12:38 PM He can't average just $2 million per year in the first few years if his signing bonus is $10 million per year. Signing bonuses can only be prorated against the cap for the first five years of the contract (in 2003 it was seven years and in 2004 it was six years). So, Moss should have a cap figure of about $3 million in his FIRST season and more and more each additional season.
HermosaBeach Skin Fan 03-23-2005, 12:47 PM Gibbs needs to step down as GM, get somebody in there who knows how to pick players, because, obviously he doesn't.
TheMalcolmConnection 03-23-2005, 01:01 PM If you've read the other threads about this, I think we've determined that Gibbs' selection style isn't all bad. Yes, he fired a blank on the Brunell hire but he definitely more than made up for it in his signings last year AND this season. Also, after reading the Cerrato interview, if anything, I might re-evaluate my scouts.
I'm not going to start bashing them at all. I'm pleased with how things have been ran since Gibbs has gotten back. Again, with the exception of Brunell, we've made some very nice signings.
Everybody likes to focus on the negative, how about some of the positive acquisitions from last year under Gibbs?
Griffin, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Washington just to name a few of the major ones.
Daseal 03-23-2005, 01:32 PM We paid most of them what they deserved at the time. All young, great players. Moss shouldn't require more than 2-3M a year on average to lock up. He should consider that a blessing.
Monksdown 03-23-2005, 01:34 PM Gibbs needs to step down as GM, get somebody in there who knows how to pick players, because, obviously he doesn't.
Gibbs is not a GM. And in his radio address with the fat stinking Tony, he addressed your very question. He said that there were plenty of good teams around the nfl that excel without a proper gm. Tony said, the Patriots have a GM. Joe laughed, and said, do you honestly think in an organization with Belichick, that the GM makes any important decisions. He also said that he runs the club just like charlie and his previous gm's. He is comfortable with the organizational layout, and it will not change.
Somewhere there was a thread on here, or a hyperlink to an article discussing one obvious benefit of having a GM. It was during the Coles negotiations. The point was made that the Coles situation was mismanaged primarily because Joe and Danny were talking to Coles, and his agent. That a seasoned "Manager" would have been able to keep both sides civil. It could be argued that with a proper GM in that case, we could have saved $5 million.
I say that because, Gibb's wouldnt have slipped up in his first conversation with Coles, and told him that he would trade him. Not taking into consideration at that point the cap hit. (Of course that conversation is mostly reported by Coles, not verified)
Lets trade Gardner, Brunell, and handfull of pretzels for Casserly.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-23-2005, 01:51 PM Everybody likes to focus on the negative, how about some of the positive acquisitions from last year under Gibbs?
Griffin, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Washington just to name a few of the major ones.
It's definately true that Gibbs did a FANTASTIC job for the most part last season in the free agency/draft additions to the team. BUT, it's not last season's moves were questioning; it's this season's moves - letting Coles, Smoot, and Pierce go while supposedly signing Moss to huge contract.
I don't think we concentrate on the negative too much. Most Warpathers defends Gibbs on virtually every move he makes. IMHO it just seems that we concentrate on the negative because criticism of Gibbs garners so much attention (anger).
BossHog 03-23-2005, 01:53 PM Two years, and he's on the waiver wire. It's all about the guaranteed dollars, not the base salary. :oink:
Monksdown 03-23-2005, 01:57 PM Im with you. Who sees Santana here in 2007??? Not me.
David Patten on the other hand. Something about him makes me think we should be really excited, and that we are all going to like him for 5 more years.
TheMalcolmConnection 03-23-2005, 02:00 PM I'd love to see Patten turn into a Monk-esque person who we can just depend on to catch the ball and do his job. Being completely premature in my judgement, I'm going to say that he SEEMS like he is the Cornelius Griffin of the offense. (Hopefully) Gets the job done and has the character to go with it.
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