On the Hole(s)...

That's the thing. If we just have to sit back and draft the best player available what if let's say Aaron Rodgers or Alex Smith is available at #9 do we pick him? For those who are quick to say 'no' because we have young gun Ramsey and Brunell aren't we equally deep at other positions? Why draft another LB, OL, DB, or WR? :oink:

TRADE away the pick and get more!!!!!!

Youll find more Gibbs type players later on.

Tell that to Lavar, Portis, & company that is counting on the front office to draft some talent to help now!!!

Not a wise choice if you ask me. Take the best available player at #9 that will best impact the team now & draft later picks to add depth in years to come.

I doubt we'll get either, but you have to look at the direction of your team. Ramsey has had too much drama, let him feel comfortable going into a season. I feel you have to take the top available talent in whatever poistions you have any sort of need. If you have Peyton, Harrison, and Wayne, you probably aren't going to draft a QB or a WR even if they're great. Simply because it doesn't help your team. The draft is where you accumulate talent, this is true. However at any given time nearly every team has 3-5 holes. Take the best player available at those positions unless there's a huge gap between that player and a player at another position. No player seems like a top round lock to me like last year. Williams maybe. DB we have two old starters, WRs we don't have a clear #1, LB we're fine at I only used DJ because he's probably the best player in the draft, and OL most people agree we're fine at.

You have to draft for talent but use your head a little bit. Don't draft a talented guy to sit on your bench for five years.

Oh I saw noodle arms stink up the joint the first 8 games!!! But it didnt take him to long after that to pull him. And some of the cuts and decisions he has made since then has shown that he only wants to find those quality Gibbs type players on his team.

I am in the camp that believes there are no immediate needs, no gaping holes in the roster as it is currently comprised.

At CB, I love Springs and I like Walt Harris a lot. Harris was a former 1st round pick and started in this league for like 6 or 7 years, so he's fine. Springs was healthy all last year, but we must remember that he has been injury prone during his career, and we would be wise to grab some talent at CB. Plus, these two starters are getting older, and we'll need to replace them someday. I think priority one for that 9th selection has to be Rolle or Pac Man. The rookie wouldn't start, he'd probably be nickel. But he'd be there if we need him this year, and he'll be ready when the old guys fade away.

Other than that, I don't see pressing needs, so my second choice for the 9th selection is to trade it down for more picks.

My third choice would be to select Mike Williams or Troy Williamson at #9. I don't think we need a WR real bad, but I'm really really high on both of these guys. It's important to remember that rookie WRs rarely make an impact and usually need 3 years to develop. But Patten is 30, and Jacobs looks like he could develop into a nice player but I don't see him becoming a star. Drafting one of these WRs wouldn't help us in the near term, but we might have a star on our hands in the longer term, so I'd be fine with this scenario.

Other needs that I see are a blocking TE, hopefully with the added ability to catch passes. If they trade down, I'd love to see Heath Miller. I know a number of people disagree with me there, but I think speedy WRs on the outside, Cooley settling into zones as a safety valve, and Miller threatening the deeper middle would be a well-balanced attack. But if we don't get Miller, we at least need a bulldozing blocker at TE.

I think Lemar Marshall or Mike Barrow will come through at LB, no need there in my opinion.

Timmy H may not be back, so a 3rd string QB is a need.

Other than that, I think we're free to take best players available.

You have to draft for talent but use your head a little bit. Don't draft a talented guy to sit on your bench for five years. Why is a later first round pick and two 2nd or 3rd round picks gonna sit the bench for five years?

Why is a later first round pick and two 2nd or 3rd round picks gonna sit the bench for five years?

He was talking about drafting one of the top QBs at 9. It's a moot point anyway, neither Rodgers or Smith have a chance to make it to our spot.

He was talking about drafting one of the top QBs at 9. It's a moot point anyway, neither Rodgers or Smith have a chance to make it to our spot.


Ohh OK I agree with that. I see NO way Gibbs drafts a QB if they fall (maybe a 6th or 7th pick).

I doubt we'll get either, but you have to look at the direction of your team...I feel you have to take the top available talent in whatever poistions you have any sort of need... DB we have two old starters, WRs we don't have a clear #1, LB we're fine at I only used DJ because he's probably the best player in the draft, and OL most people agree we're fine at.

You have to draft for talent but use your head a little bit. Don't draft a talented guy to sit on your bench for five years.

Yeah. I also believe that Derrick Johnson is probably the safest pick of the draft. There's little doubt that he'll have a productive NFL career as long as the injury bug doesn't bite him often. We don't need him. With only picks in the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 7th (as of right now) it seems critical that our day one selections pan out to be legit talent. I'm comfortable with drafting a TE, DT, and if necessary, OL in the later rounds, but drafting a 3rd round or lower CB or WR is not going to make us a better team. :oink:

I don't think we have enough depth holes to make us trade down. If the right deal comes along I think it is possible but our options at 9 would have to limited. Williams, Jones, Edwards and Rolle would defintily all have to be gone it would seem. At that point I think you start targeting specific players and move back to get them like we did with Ramsey a couple years ago. I'd loev to move back to about 20 and get a 2nd rounder but I don't think value wise that is possible.