Obama Care Part II

So you don't really know if the premium is cheaper or we the tax payers are paying a portion of the premium?

I know that my friends are paying cheaper premiums and that is what affordable health care is all about. That's all I know.

Well I guess the entire media is not reporting us the truth

I guess your policy has renewed and stayed the same?


Why , are you in the media ?

You seem to do a lot of that , ...guessing and assuming .All I know is my policy is staying the same .My youngest has a policy from Kaiser Permanente and she pays $145 a month and that covers everything hosp , dental and eye , she loves her Doctor and she has a $20 co - pay .

To be honest I am okay if my premiums go up. I think everyone should have access to health care and if it means I have to pay a little more so be it. I am also a big advocate for user pay for our society. I should pay more for the roads I use, the parks I go to etc.

Why , are you in the media ?

You seem to do a lot of that , ...guessing and assuming .All I know is my policy is staying the same .My youngest has a policy from Kaiser Permanente and she pays $145 a month and that covers everything hosp , dental and eye , she loves her Doctor and she has a $20 co - pay .

Not sure how you can say that both of your policies are staying the same unless you have received your 2014 renewal.

To be honest I am okay if my premiums go up. I think everyone should have access to health care and if it means I have to pay a little more so be it. I am also a big advocate for user pay for our society. I should pay more for the roads I use, the parks I go to etc.

I'm with you. I won't receive Obamacare since I get health insurance through my job. Nonetheless, Medicaid withholdings from my paycheck have increased to pay for it all. And I'm good with that. If some poor person now can get health care, it's worth it.

Company Behind Troubled Obamacare Website Donated Heavily To Republicans In 2012 (http://www.buzzfeed.com/stevefriess/company-behind-troubled-obamacare-website-donated-heavily-to)


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Company Behind Troubled Obamacare Website Donated Heavily To Republicans In 2012 (http://www.buzzfeed.com/stevefriess/company-behind-troubled-obamacare-website-donated-heavily-to)


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I haven't seen Rep. saying that the company got the deal because of ties to Obama. Why would they need to? All they have to do is show (which they have done) Obama knew there was issues with the system long before it rolled out and that's what has been brought into question. To me the roll out is to par with everything else done by Obama.

I haven't seen Rep. saying that the company got the deal because of ties to Obama. Why would they need to? All they have to do is show (which they have done) Obama knew there was issues with the system long before it rolled out and that's what has been brought into question. To me the roll out is to par with everything else done by Obama.

I do think the roll out was embarassing and mishandled. I heard an interview with a representative (not sure of affiliation) and he said the biggest problem was that the government couldn't afford the quality of workers required for a site of that magnitude. They are all working for google, yahoo or facebook and not interested in a 40K a year job.

I have a few quick things to input into the conversation.

1) The website debacle. When speaking to the availability of the site, this is a tough topic. They could have taken precautions to ensure the load didn't crash the site, however the hardware costs for the project would be through the roof. A good analogy for the launch of this site is a brand new video game. When a brand new video game launches, it typically crashes a lot. The reason for this typically isn't technical ignorance, it's hardware. Very rarely will your game (or site) see the amount of traffic it will see the first couple weeks. The decision you make is if you invest in a ton of hardware that keeps you up during the huge spike in demand early, or have plenty of resources to maintain down the road and deal with some up front issues with availability. Many games/sites that have to make this decision opt to save money on hardware and deal with some customer inconvenience. As a tax payer, I'm okay with them not wasting thousands upon thousands on unnecessary hardware. Perhaps a system only allowing people with certain info registering at certain times would have helped, but I don't have enough information to make that recommendation.

2) My company has sent some e-mails barely disguising their hate for ACA and the massive impact it has on the company. After comparing the exact same plan between last year and this year the total paid went up 10 dollars a pay period. Here's the fun part. The company pays 4 dollars a check LESS this year and the employee pays $14 dollars more this year. Either way, a fairly small jump all things considered, but it's better for the business than before.

Not sure how you can say that both of your policies are staying the same unless you have received your 2014 renewal.


That is just it, you don't know .You believe what you want to and damn everyone else .No you don't know anything about my one policy I do and I know what I pay for(it is a self funded plain) and what I get and I know it's not changing , as for my daughters policy she has had it a year and was just there 2 weeks ago and no nothing has change .