skinsfan69
10-29-2013, 03:38 PM
AH and the Redskins are both to blame. The Redskins were stupid to outbid everyone for a guy with serious questionable character. AH is a POS for basically taking the money and doing nothing when he got here. Yeah someone else would've signed him...Tampa and the Giants were in the running, but there was no way Snyder was going to get outbid. If you play with a snake long enough you will get bitten...and Snyder got bit for 33 million. Lessons learned.
skinsfan69
10-29-2013, 03:41 PM
Yeah I dont think its fair to bring rape into it, but the skins were asking for it especially after showing a clear history of being burned time and time again. Skins didnt do they're due dillegence, they obviously had no clear plan, and it didnt matter what Albert wore, he clearly identified the Skins as a mark. And took advantage of it.
Chico you are dead on. Snyder had already been burned numerous times before he got in the AH business. He took the bait and got burned.
FRPLG
10-29-2013, 04:45 PM
Because you kept leaving your house unlocked and people kept walking in and stealing time and time again. Your negligence is a contributing factor. It was a culture. It had to change and it has.
That doesn't absolve any blame from the perpetrator at all though. Perhaps in creates additional blame of a different sort associated with the victim but the crime was still perpetrated by someone who did the wrong thing. Circumstances don't change that.
JoeRedskin
10-29-2013, 04:45 PM
Because you kept leaving your house unlocked and people kept walking in and stealing time and time again. Your negligence is a contributing factor. It was a culture. It had to change and it has.
Wait ... so stealing from stupid people is okay? The justification "Everybody else is profiting by deceit/fraud/bad faith, it would be stupid for me not do it as well" is a morally valid argument to you??
I dunno Chico, you seem like a nice guy, but it is clear you and I have a very different concept of right and wrong.
FRPLG
10-29-2013, 04:47 PM
I don't seem to remember too may people decrying the move when we made it. I sorta remember everyone being pretty stoked. AH was known for being an asshat on the field. Not necessarily for being the "awful person" in general that CC describes.
I don't seem to remember too may people decrying the move when we made it. I sorta remember everyone being pretty stoked. AH was known for being an asshat on the field. Not necessarily for being the "awful person" in general that CC describes.
Well he's had plenty of off the field incidents as well to support the awful person theory.
Chico23231
10-29-2013, 04:57 PM
Wait ... so stealing from stupid people is okay? The justification "Everybody else is profiting by deceit/fraud/bad faith, it would be stupid for me not do it as well" is a morally valid argument to you??
I dunno Chico, you seem like a nice guy, but it is clear you and I have a very different concept of right and wrong.
Your shifting the arguement and i didnt say stealing was ok. Im saying blame lies with stupid in the context of this business. The red flags were waving and the history of negligence with Vinny/Danny...? I dont see right on any side of this issue.
Evilgrin
10-29-2013, 05:33 PM
A moron or morons signed another moron to a stupid contract, stupidity ensued.
Lotus
10-29-2013, 05:41 PM
Well he's had plenty of off the field incidents as well to support the awful person theory.
You mean you're not supposed to feel up random waitresses? Dang, that's what I've been doing wrong.
DynamiteRave
10-29-2013, 06:45 PM
I don't seem to remember too may people decrying the move when we made it. I sorta remember everyone being pretty stoked. AH was known for being an asshat on the field. Not necessarily for being the "awful person" in general that CC describes.
His draft stock dropped because of character issues.
He was known for letting loose on teammates. (i.e. he kicked his teammate in the chest)
He stomped on a dude's head.
Haynesworth caused a dude to be partially paralyzed cuz he was driving over 100mph (okay, this one can be let go, because we have/had murderers play in the NFL)
He felt up some lady (post-Redskins era)
He punched some dude, out of road rage. (post-Redskins era)
But the thing is that the awful person mentality had been there. This dude was screaming red flags.