Another school Shooting Nevada

This is a response from a grown up to a gun thread about more children being shot and killed , amazing .

It was a direct response to your Utopian drivel. Don't try to bend my words, hippie.

Nice that we can have an intelligent debate.

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I dont think teachers should have guns in the classroom, I dont think people should be visibly armed outside/patroling the halls either. But I would have no problem with a 1 security/resource officer certified, conceled permit to have access to a hidden firearm at a school. No problem at all with that. School budgets are tight, but if your serious about child safety and guns, then that area should have no problem with being taxed to pay for it.

But, teachers, administrators have no effing business having a gun in their desk. none

I dont think teachers should have guns in the classroom, I dont think people should be visibly armed outside/patroling the halls either. But I would have no problem with a 1 security/resource officer certified, conceled permit to have access to a hidden firearm at a school. No problem at all with that. School budgets are tight, but if your serious about child safety and guns, then that area should have no problem with being taxed to pay for it.

But, teachers, administrators have no effing business having a gun in their desk. none

The SROs in our county are Baltimore County Police Officers. They wear their unis and their guns. Personally, I think if the constituents in a district feel funding for a SRO is too expensive they do not have their priorities right. You also bring a valid reason why many police officers are against armed teachers. First it would require all police to know who and be able to properly ID the teachers who are legally carrying so when they enter a school they don't confuse the armed teacher with a suspect. Second you would have to disclose the undercover police officers in a school to the admin and those teachers so that if an incident does occur a teacher doesn't assume they are seeing a student with a gun in the hallway.

The SROs in our county are Baltimore County Police Officers. They wear their unis and their guns. Personally, I think if the constituents in a district feel funding for a SRO is too expensive they do not have their priorities right. You also bring a valid reason why many police officers are against armed teachers. First it would require all police to know who and be able to properly ID the teachers who are legally carrying so when they enter a school they don't confuse the armed teacher with a suspect. Second you would have to disclose the undercover police officers in a school to the admin and those teachers so that if an incident does occur a teacher doesn't assume they are seeing a student with a gun in the hallway.

The problem with having an officer in the schools is the cost and these things are so random. It would be like putting a cop in every neighborhood. I'm not saying arm all teachers I'm talking a few that may elect to carry. That's only if the local schools and PTA's decide it is best for the school. People have to remember most cops go their intire career never firing their guns and the same would be the case for these teachers. Its not like they are going Rambo though out the school all day long. They just have a gun for if and that's a big if its ever needed.

No MP's on base? No guns in those buildings at all?

Do you know the size of a base. Three people died in Fort Hood trying to fight him off with chairs. Its also thought he chose his location based off security of the lack of security in this paticular building. I beleive the first MP that arrived was also shot but I think she lived.

Do you know the size of a base. Three people died in Fort Hood trying to fight him off with chairs. Its also thought he chose his location based off security of the lack of security in this paticular building. I beleive the first MP that arrived was also shot but I think she lived.

So bottom line there were guns on the base.

Thanks.

I dont think teachers should have guns in the classroom, I dont think people should be visibly armed outside/patroling the halls either. But I would have no problem with a 1 security/resource officer certified, conceled permit to have access to a hidden firearm at a school. No problem at all with that. School budgets are tight, but if your serious about child safety and guns, then that area should have no problem with being taxed to pay for it.

But, teachers, administrators have no effing business having a gun in their desk. none

This makes much more sense than arming teachers.

Do you know the size of a base. Three people died in Fort Hood trying to fight him off with chairs. Its also thought he chose his location based off security of the lack of security in this paticular building. I beleive the first MP that arrived was also shot but I think she lived.

Wasn't your argument that gunmen attack "soft" targets? There are a lot softer targets than a military base where there are, by your argument, only a few guns.

I dont think teachers should have guns in the classroom, I dont think people should be visibly armed outside/patroling the halls either. But I would have no problem with a 1 security/resource officer certified, conceled permit to have access to a hidden firearm at a school. No problem at all with that. School budgets are tight, but if your serious about child safety and guns, then that area should have no problem with being taxed to pay for it.

But, teachers, administrators have no effing business having a gun in their desk. none

Well you wouldn't have a teacher with a gun sitting in her desk. There is no need to pay a cerdified security guard when you could have someone that's allready in the school doing the same thing. It does not have to be a teacher it could be another school employee that gets certified.