Another school Shooting Nevada

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RedskinRat
10-22-2013, 07:45 PM
No mass shootings in Australia but check out the spike in violent crimes, like rape and assault. Banning guns allows the strong to prey on the weak. Their ban and the UK's bear that out.

Lotus
10-22-2013, 07:56 PM
Had that teacher been armed he might be here today and the killer dead. I don't like thinking we need to arm teachers but we can't leave them defenseless as we are now doing.

Or we could make sure that the shooter had no gun. Then the teacher would be free to do, I don't know, teach?

RedskinRat
10-22-2013, 08:28 PM
Or we could make sure that the shooter had no gun. Then the teacher would be free to do, I don't know, teach?

Yes, let's magic away all the bad things in the world...... <sigh>

Shouldn't you be grooming your Sasquatch?

That Guy
10-22-2013, 09:04 PM
gun control != 100% total gun ban. if you really think ar-15s are the best way to prevent rape, well...

mooby
10-22-2013, 09:10 PM
Had that teacher been armed he might be here today and the killer dead. I don't like thinking we need to arm teachers but we can't leave them defenseless as we are now doing.

Well what if the kid shot the teacher, killed him, took the teacher's gun, and used it to kill more kids? Than what? If you're going to talk about scenarios you should probably check both ends of the spectrum.

NC_Skins
10-22-2013, 10:46 PM
Arizona party turns violent; Gunman stopped by armed partygoer (http://www.guns.com/2013/10/22/az-concealed-carrier-stops-gunman-opened-fire-rifle-weekend-party/)

MTK
10-22-2013, 11:49 PM
Arizona party turns violent; Gunman stopped by armed partygoer (http://www.guns.com/2013/10/22/az-concealed-carrier-stops-gunman-opened-fire-rifle-weekend-party/)

Well there you go, I'll be getting myself a gun tomorrow. At least I won't get raped. Murica.

firstdown
10-23-2013, 10:02 AM
You have no proof , again as in my scenario what if the armed guard (or teacher ) miss's or kills the wrong person/student ....what if the gun goes off by accident ??? No .


You don't just hand a teacher a gun and say if anything happens start shooting. You pick teachers who are willing to take the proper training and make them take intensive classes on how to handle a gun. Guns don't go off by accident when handled properly. Cops and people with carry permits carry guns all the time and they don't just accidently go off. The problem with your scenario is that we know what happens when the teachers are not armed and its not good. These people seem to pick places where they know people are not armed.

firstdown
10-23-2013, 10:03 AM
Or we could make sure that the shooter had no gun. Then the teacher would be free to do, I don't know, teach?

Like making drugs illegal?

It would be nice if the teachers could just teach but that's not todays world.

Lotus
10-23-2013, 11:16 AM
Like making drugs illegal?

It would be nice if the teachers could just teach but that's not todays world.

Drugs and guns are not the same thing. It is easier to get drugs through a prohibition than it is to get guns. Just ask Australia.

As for teachers, it is today's world (I am a teacher) unless someone demands that teachers pack heat.

Also, it is quite unfair to demand that teachers carry guns despite the fact that some teachers would be opposed to doing so. I thought that the Republicans were the party of individual liberty - where's the individual liberty of requiring people to carry guns just so they can teach?

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