Another school Shooting Nevada

Most guns used by kids don't come from the parents.really , break down kids , and any links ?

.....another gun enthusiast out for fun .

Shooter on the loose at New Jersey mall - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/new-jersey-mall-shooting/)

.....another gun enthusiast out for fun .

Shooter on the loose at New Jersey mall - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/new-jersey-mall-shooting/)

What's your point?

* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. [1] This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. [2]
* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.[3]
* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.[4]
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]
* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).[6] And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."[7]


[1] Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense With a Gun," 86 The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law, 1 (Fall 1995):164. Dr. Kleck is a professor in the school of criminology and criminal justice at Florida State University in Tallahassee. He has researched extensively and published several essays on the gun control issue. His book, Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America, has become a widely cited source in the gun control debate.

[2] According to the National Safety Council, the total number of gun deaths (by accidents, suicides and homicides) account for less than 30,000 deaths per year. See Injury Facts, published yearly by the National Safety Council, Itasca, Illinois.
[3] Kleck and Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime," at 173, 185.
[4]Kleck and Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime," at 185.
[5]Philip J. Cook and Jens Ludwig, "Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms," NIJ Research in Brief (May 1997); available at http://www.ncjrs.org/txtfiles/165476.txt on the internet.

[6]Kleck, Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America, (1991):111-116, 148.
[7]George F. Will, "Are We 'a Nation of Cowards'?," Newsweek (15 November 1993):93.

.....another gun enthusiast out for fun .

Shooter on the loose at New Jersey mall - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/new-jersey-mall-shooting/)

its becoming a weekly occurance. sad. I wish the media would stop giving so much time to these people, but hey the more clicks, more advertising, money>general good of society. sad as well.

Humans are always programmed to look at the worst case scenarios. If someone is brinigng in the groceries with their arms full and they drop their eggs they always make a comment. Nobody comments on the thousands of times thet do it and don't break their eggs. The same is for gun violence. This is a highly devisive issue and I am not sure of the answer. I do believe in an individuals right to own guns, but I also know the statistics of how 75% of guns used in Mexican cartel violence were purchased legally in the U.S. and how over 50% of guns used for crimes in the U.S. that are recovered were stolen from law abiding citizens who don't take (in my mind) proper precautions.

Humans are always programmed to look at the worst case scenarios. If someone is brinigng in the groceries with their arms full and they drop their eggs they always make a comment. Nobody comments on the thousands of times thet do it and don't break their eggs. The same is for gun violence. This is a highly devisive issue and I am not sure of the answer. I do believe in an individuals right to own guns, but I also know the statistics of how 75% of guns used in Mexican cartel violence were purchased legally in the U.S. and how over 50% of guns used for crimes in the U.S. that are recovered were stolen from law abiding citizens who don't take (in my mind) proper precautions.

Don't forget that repressive regimes around the world use US-gotten guns to enforce their power.

More dead kids, this time in Pittsburgh.

3 Pittsburgh students ambushed outside school (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/13/pittsburgh-high-school-shooting/3518621/)

More dead kids, this time in Pittsburgh.

3 Pittsburgh students ambushed outside school (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/13/pittsburgh-high-school-shooting/3518621/)

If you are going to post an article you should probably read it first.

It was 3 young adults wounded with non life threatening wounds. And it was allegedly related to a drug deal gone bad a week or so prior.

When the facts are represented it has a little different tone than, more dead kids again.

mlmdub130 :goodjob:

Lotus :laughing2

Don't forget that repressive regimes around the world use US-gotten guns to enforce their power.

Can we get a list of regimes? Oh, and could you also list the regimes getting their weapons elsewhere? Maybe throw in the organization deciding who's repressive and what constitutes repression? Is the U.S. listed yet?