Lotus
10-24-2013, 03:52 PM
With the same corresponding increase in violent crime? You must be one of those wealthy elitist types that won't be exposed to the resultant carnage? Good for you!
You apparently are not aware that ad hominen arguments against the person are not logically valid arguments. The only arguments that you have made in this thread is that those who want to reduce guns are either hippies or wealthy elitists (which, by the way, I am not).
These arguments of yours are logically fallacious while they also do not reflect reality.
Please offer a real argument with real data.
Giantone
10-24-2013, 03:53 PM
Funny you call me a gun nut and I don't even own a gun.
Where did I ever say you have to own one to be one ?
Yes. Well documented, too.
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Links?
Everything I'm reading says their presence is rare (and usually only on higher risk destinations) as there simply aren't enough of them to cover all flights.
Is there a federal air marshal on every flight (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_a_federal_air_marshal_on_every_flight)
HowStuffWorks "How Airport Security Works" (http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/airport-security8.htm)
About 5% of U.S. flights have undercover air marshals. - OMG Facts (http://www.omg-facts.com/Interesting/About-5-Of-U-S-Flights-Have-Undercover-A/52884)
Sources: Air marshals missing from almost all flights - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/03/25/siu.air.marshals/)
RedskinRat
10-24-2013, 04:05 PM
Please offer a real argument with real data.
I'm not repeating myself, you can go back and reread the various gun threads, spend some time with John Lott's book I cite as a validating source, maybe check his blog.
Oh, and be sure to register any Sasquatch you've discovered.
Chico23231
10-24-2013, 04:18 PM
I'm not repeating myself, you can go back and reread the various gun threads, spend some time with John Lott's book I cite as a validating source, maybe check his blog.
Oh, and be sure to register any Sasquatch you've discovered.
Gotta admit, i did lol at this.
Rat, why does everyone have to be an elitest or hippy who want resonable gun control? I just think the unfortuanately some dont deserve the right to bear arms and some arms should be unbearable because we as a nation abuse these powerful weapons too often.
Gotta admit, i did lol at this.
Rat, why does everyone have to be an elitest or hippy who want resonable gun control? I just think the unfortuanately some dont deserve the right to bear arms and some arms should be unbearable because we as a nation abuse these powerful weapons too often.
People often resort to insults when they've got nothing else.
Giantone
10-24-2013, 04:30 PM
People need to see this .......
Kids & Guns - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GztAoqje0gI#t=26)
Lotus
10-24-2013, 04:33 PM
With the same corresponding increase in violent crime? You must be one of those wealthy elitist types that won't be exposed to the resultant carnage? Good for you!
One could reduce gun violence by taking guns off the street as a first step. Then one can tackle the violent crime.
Burglary is less of a trauma than mass shootings of kids. But if you would like to argue that you would prefer to have masses of dead kids than burglaries, go ahead. However, if you are not willing to make this argument, then you logically must recognize that reducing mass gun violence against kids is a priority and that the Australian solution responds to this.
firstdown
10-24-2013, 04:50 PM
Most teachers have more education then cops but some find it hard that if one desired they could take traing to safely carry a gun. I also hear about hitting others but I would guess that 100% of the other people would be getting the hell out of they way and ducking from the assult in the first place.
You guys do know that Utah allows teachers to carry and I think they have been for 12 yrs now.
RedskinRat
10-24-2013, 04:59 PM
Burglary is less of a trauma than mass shootings of kids.
Are burglaries counted as violent crime? No. That makes your argument invalid.
But if you would like to argue that you would prefer to have masses of dead kids than burglaries, go ahead.
Ah, the 'Pretentious Douche' school of rhetoric! Go milk a Unicorn.
p.s. I'm from the 'E Cartman' school, myself.
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