Skins vs Bears postgame

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Lotus
10-21-2013, 12:50 PM
Did he? If you look at his number he only slowed down running as he got older and was still running alot in his prime. He may have only had one really big year when he was not running the ball.

Randall Cunningham NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CunnRa00.htm)

Yes, he kept running some. So will RGIII.

But in 1998 he led the Vikes to a new season record for points scored (breaking the record of the '83 Skins) and was primarily a pocket passer in doing so. Go back and watch tape of Cunningham throwing to Moss and Carter - he was primarily a pocket passer.

My point was not to tout Cunningham - my point was that anything he could do, RGIII could do better.

scowan
10-21-2013, 12:57 PM
The Redskins better figure out their Special Teams before next week or Holliday will light them up. Peyton is going to be hard enough to deal with, we don't need Holliday scoring on a punt/KR as well.

BaltimoreSkins
10-21-2013, 01:15 PM
The Redskins better figure out their Special Teams before next week or Holliday will light them up. Peyton is going to be hard enough to deal with, we don't need Holliday scoring on a punt/KR as well.

Maybe this is the game plan to keep Manning off the field? :silly:

RFKRat
10-21-2013, 01:20 PM
It's not just the special teams. The defense is still a joke. When Josh McCown of all people can come in and move the ball at will, you have problems. It's a sickening feeling that even with :45 left after the go-ahead TD, the Bears still had a chance to win the game.

I think some perspective is in order too. I know people hate realists but this is still a bad football team. The local media is drooling on about "progress" but really has there been much? Is the team, and Griffin "better" or are they taking advantage?

If Oakland has Pryor in the lineup it's not out of order to say that the Redskins probably don't win that game...Flynn was terrible but the game was still close. In Dallas, people point out "progress" even though it was a two-TD loss. Dallas was missing their RB and had a patchwork defensive line, including losing their Pro Bowl star Ware early in the game. Yet the media here and most fans ignore that and go on about how the offense is "back". Yet even Dallas's backups were able to pressure the Redskins and hold them to 16 points overall. That's progress?

Then yesterday. Don't even mention Cutler going down, cause McCown (an awful QB over the last few years) came in and torched the Redskins. But on defense the Bears were already injury-riddled..losing key members Helton and Jennings earlier in the year and were overall like 28th in the league. One of the announcers even jokingly said the Bears had some guys on the line who were meat-packers a couple weeks ago. Then they lost Briggs and Tillman etc for extended time. So yeah, the offense looked great against one of the worst and most injury-riddled defenses in the league.

That's a good gauge that the offense is "back"? The Redskins were at home, had all the advantages (that onside kick was not offsides) and still barely scraped out a win. This is still like a 6-10 team at best. Yeah it was a win but I can't see how anyone is really that optimistic about it.

MTK
10-21-2013, 01:25 PM
It's all perspective I guess. People see what they want to see.

scowan
10-21-2013, 01:35 PM
It's not just the special teams. The defense is still a joke. When Josh McCown of all people can come in and move the ball at will, you have problems. It's a sickening feeling that even with :45 left after the go-ahead TD, the Bears still had a chance to win the game.

I think some perspective is in order too. I know people hate realists but this is still a bad football team. The local media is drooling on about "progress" but really has there been much? Is the team, and Griffin "better" or are they taking advantage?

If Oakland has Pryor in the lineup it's not out of order to say that the Redskins probably don't win that game...Flynn was terrible but the game was still close. In Dallas, people point out "progress" even though it was a two-TD loss. Dallas was missing their RB and had a patchwork defensive line, including losing their Pro Bowl star Ware early in the game. Yet the media here and most fans ignore that and go on about how the offense is "back". Yet even Dallas's backups were able to pressure the Redskins and hold them to 16 points overall. That's progress?

Then yesterday. Don't even mention Cutler going down, cause McCown (an awful QB over the last few years) came in and torched the Redskins. But on defense the Bears were already injury-riddled..losing key members Helton and Jennings earlier in the year and were overall like 28th in the league. One of the announcers even jokingly said the Bears had some guys on the line who were meat-packers a couple weeks ago. Then they lost Briggs and Tillman etc for extended time. So yeah, the offense looked great against one of the worst and most injury-riddled defenses in the league.

That's a good gauge that the offense is "back"? The Redskins were at home, had all the advantages (that onside kick was not offsides) and still barely scraped out a win. This is still like a 6-10 team at best. Yeah it was a win but I can't see how anyone is really that optimistic about it.

RFKRat, everything you have written here is true, but it was also mentioned in one of the Washington Post blogs about how it seems like the Redskins have been "knocking out" key members of the other team almost every week. Yesterday it was Cutler. Before that it was McFadden, then Eddie Lacy, then Demarco Murray. Heck they even knocked out LeVeon Bell in the preseason and it took him around 6 weeks to come back. Fate, Fortune, who knows, but you can only play the guys facing you and all teams have injuries that make them less than full strength. Heck, the Skins were missing a 100% RGIII and a Jenkins, and a Rob Jackson the first 4 weeks. Wins are Wins and while I have every reason to expect the Skins to get crushed in Denver next week, stranger things have happened. The Colts are a good team but I didn't see them beating the Broncos last night and they did.

The Redskins are improving in some areas and not in others, but they were 3-6 at one point last year and after 9 games this year I will exect them to be better than that.

Chico23231
10-21-2013, 01:38 PM
wins are tough to come by in this league, lets enjoy this one.

Im not understanding why people keep bringing up if Pryor woulda played we woulda loss. I f*cking forgot Pryor is on the same tier as Luck, untouchable apparently.

MTK
10-21-2013, 01:38 PM
He can still help this team score. If the wr's aren't getting it done then get Davis out there in some 2 TE sets with Reed. No need for him to be inactive.

You'd expect a guy on a one year prove it deal would be working a little harder on and off the field. He's got nobody but himself to blame at this point.

12thMan
10-21-2013, 02:19 PM
I think if we can get Rak in Peyton's face, we'll have a shot at beating the Broncos. I really feel he's the missing piece of this defense. We need that guy to be dominant.

Lotus
10-21-2013, 02:32 PM
I think if we can get Rak in Peyton's face, we'll have a shot at beating the Broncos. I really feel he's the missing piece of this defense. We need that guy to be dominant.

I agree. The Colts limited Manning by playing solid man-to-man with 7 guys and getting strong pressure off of the edges with 4 rushers. We can replicate that formula. If Rak and Kerrigan have good days, we have a shot at slowing Manning down.

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