Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

Give me stats anyday over wild exaggerations and perceptions that don't match up with reality.

I hope we dont lose double digits this year, this board is gonna get crazy if we are this far gone already.


HAHA this board is crazy when we win 10 games!

To me it is silly to say all three are responsible, obviously they are. It is a team sport. However, some facets are more liable for the position we are in and I have a hard time seeing how offense is held to the same level as the defense and special teams in this instance.

Out of the 8 teams ahead of the Redskins in average points scored, only the Denver Broncos average more points scored per game than what the Redskins defense is giving up. Let that sink in for a bit. The Saints come in at 2nd place averaging 29.4 points per ball game - not enough to compensate for the points the defense gives up. All top ten of the offenses are separated by a point or two or three (and even separated by a tenth of a point), with the exception of the Denver Broncos who are averaging over 41 points per ball game.

So, your argument is that the offense needs to do better because there is no hope for the special teams and defense. An offense that is only separated by about three points from the 2nd highest scoring offense in the league - needs to do better? That just isn't a logical argument. Your other argument is someone needs to be punished for the poor effort of the defense and special teams. Yes, I agree. How about we punish the defensive coordinator and special teams coach? Seems logical to me. Have them jettisoned out of Washington in favor of someone else who provides a better effort? Pair Mike Shanahan with a defense that is in the top ten in points allowed. Then we see if it was truly a mistake to bring Shanahan in.

I didnt say anything about punishing anyone? I said the d and st suck.
Also I did not argue that the offense needs to do better really. Im simply pointing out that I do not think anyone is bashing the offense and letting the other units off the hook. I think it is more a result of - we can expect even more from this offense because it is quite capable (it is a compliment), whereas the d and st is what it is - shit. We cannot expect more than what we get from them so let it go for this year.
Also I didnt even mention Shanny.
So again - as fans we see the potential of RG-3, Morris, and Garcon and we want to win 41-38. Lol. I expect more from those guys than i do from the D. It doesnt mean I think it is their fault if we lose. They, however, are our only hope for winning.

The focus is only there because Shanny apologists doggedly (like over and over and over and over) point to the offense as a defense of the current regime.

The same offense that can't score points when it matters. Couldn't score against a horrible Denver defense and even worst Vikings defense for an entire half of the game.

In a phrase, it's the most inconsistent, underwhelming top 10 offense I've ever seen. Inconsistent in both the short and long run, btw. Running the QB, especially one who's already suffered major injuries and definitely isn't the burly body type of a Cunningham for instance, isn't tenable.

So I don't know, ban me and/or shut the thread and discussion down I guess. We've all had our say and now it's just waiting for the end of the Shanahan era...

Just like the Shanny haters keep ignoring any success the offense has, and in fact want to point blame to that side of the ball which just continues to amaze me.

Cunningham had a burly body? LOL dude was a string bean at 6-4 215 and funny enough when he blew out his knee it came on a hit in the pocket, not on a scramble.

I swear how do you come up with this nonsense?

Just like the Shanny haters keep ignoring any success the offense has, and in fact want to point blame to that side of the ball which just continues to amaze me.

Cunningham had a burly body? LOL dude was a string bean at 6-4 215 and funny enough when he blew out his knee it came on a hit in the pocket, not on a scramble.

I swear how do you come up with this nonsense?

I was waiting for someone to call him out on that one..

Goat where you thinking of McFlabb or Culpepper?

Those guys were "burly" not RC...

Back to the pocket passer BS for a moment

Robert Griffin III: 'I've got tough skin' - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/58714/rg-iii-ive-got-tough-skin)

Among the criticisms: He's not a pocket passer. For now, that's accurate as Griffin operates best when the Redskins ask him to be multi-dimensional. But he's been hot on third downs in the past two games, completing 16-of-21 passes for 196 yards and two touchdowns -- and most have come on straight dropbacks. He's third in the NFL the past two weeks on third downs with a total quarterback rating of 97.0, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

Offense def better than the defense. But it struggled immensly the first four games.

Foolish to just say the defense is to blame, especially dumb not to mention Special Teams at all. They are more a contributing factor than most think and especially key in several losses.The first four games, we scored 27(7 off a pick 6), 20, 20, and 24 points respectively.

The defense gave up 33, 38, 27, 14 respectively.

We need the offense to step up because the defense and special teams BOTH SUCK, and the offense stepped up to carry us last season. But Kyle and the offense aren't the problem.

I was waiting for someone to call him out on that one..

Goat where you thinking of McFlabb or Culpepper?

Those guys were "burly" not RC...

And Steve McNair was a big mofo too. Cunningham was light early on but always looked like a fuller build to me than RG ever has. Just my opinion. RG doesn't help himself by playing with a "rigid" body if that makes sense. I mean the shots he takes are horrendous enough, but from boxing/kickboxing I can attest to how you take the contact makes a huge difference. Loose and limber minimizes the hits while holding yourself rigid makes everything worse.

And Steve McNair was a big mofo too. Cunningham was light early on but always looked like a fuller build to me than RG ever has. Just my opinion. RG doesn't help himself by playing with a "rigid" body if that makes sense. I mean the shots he takes are horrendous enough, but from boxing/kickboxing I can attest to how you take the contact makes a huge difference. Loose and limber minimizes the hits while holding yourself rigid makes everything worse.

Cunningham was listed at 215 when he retired, so early on he was probably closer to 200. He had skinny legs and arms much like Griffin, but both are incredible athletes. I guess you would have been in the make Cunningham a pocket passer camp back then?

As far as Griffin going 'rigid'... no idea where you're coming from. Most of the hits he takes on 2nd look aren't nearly as bad as they look at full speed, mostly because he knows how to take a hit and loosen or twist his body as needed to not take the full shot.

Any more BS you want to try to throw at the wall? :blah: