Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

Saw a rumor about Shaw from Stanford being on Snyder's radar.... not quite sure how accurate that is but interesting no doubt

My one memory of David Shaw was in the fiesta bowl a few years ago. It's Stanford vs. Oklahoma St. Andrew Luck vs Brandon Weeden and Justin Blackmon.

The game is high scoring, going back and forth. Luck, as we all knew was the best NFL talent that year and arguably the best or second best (at worst) talent in college football. OK States defense couldn't stop Luck. The kicker got Stanford missed the first FG. Ok he'll shake it off.

Then the kicker misses a second FG, would have won them the game in regulation. Hmm maybe we should start going for it on 4th down...

Then it's overtime, Stanford has stopped OK St. Luck again is driving down the field with ease. Instead of continuing the drive with Luck Shaw figured, "lets just kick it." Nope missed it again. And Stanford lost the game by 3.

So why did I bring this up? Because David Shaw had a great talented player that couldn't be stopped playing in a huge game, and he decided to play it safe and stupid trusting a kicker who missed multiple FGs, over a using a talented player like Luck. What's to say he doesn't know how to utilize a talent like Robert? That's what we want and from what I've seen of Shaw handling talent on big stages, I'm not knocking on his door thinking he can fix our teams and offenses problems.

Let's see. Did Pete Carroll inherit

1) Oldest team in the league-

Nope.


2) Team in cap hell due to outrageous contracts from previous regime.

Nope.

3) Team penalized 36 million in cap room.

Nope.

Don't even compare Pete Carroll's situation he stepped into with Shanahan. It's not even remotely close. The only team that even remotely compares would possibly be the Raiders. Only they have been as idiotic as we have with draft picks and stupid contracts. Not only that, the NFC West was garbage when Carroll came into the league, and even got into the playoffs with a 7-9 record. Do you think he would have anything close to that playing in the NFC East back then? Hell no.


What was the difference in Bill Bellicheks and Pete Carroll's situations from their first stint as head coaches to their second stint. Their situation. If you think these guys some some epiphany after they were fired that led to to become some sort of coaching genius than I have some ocean front property to sell you in Utah.A better response would have been "I am not familiar with the Seahawks situation when Carroll/Schneider took over." Basically, they were old, and had fatal flaws because the previous regime did not know what it was doing. With, of course, some rough contracts.

As far as the cap penalty goes, lets make this tangible. Which player who is struggling with the Redskins right now would have failed to make the Redskins roster with $18 million more in cap space? Use an actual player's name. Someone who is on this team because we didn't have the cap room to replace him, even though we wanted to.

The last year and this year have stunted the growth of the team and organization with the cap penalty. Especially last offseason we couldn't add any o-line help or secondary help with zero money to spend or to keep our own guy AKA Lorenzo. Oh and a QB coming major knee surgery who isn't a pocket passer and team are making him throw to beat them. He is proving he needs a lot of work to get there, he is a horrible right now at reading defenses and progressing through his reads.

Name one team that turned around despite a $36 mil. cap penalty.

I'll one up you. There's a team that had nothing going for it. Winless for more than a season, and under a new head coach had completely turned the corner by year three. This year, top of the division and it's a way better division than the NFCE. Any guesses?

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Name me an HC with more top to bottom control than Mike? Makes him more responsible for his team than any other HC. Pretty simple.

Whats Wayne Fontes up to....

Whats Wayne Fontes up to....

Probably hanging out with Joe Walton (worst DC the Redskins ever had, worse than Haslett)

A better response would have been "I am not familiar with the Seahawks situation when Carroll/Schneider took over." Basically, they were old, and had fatal flaws because the previous regime did not know what it was doing. With, of course, some rough contracts..

The only bad years they had prior to 2003 came in 2008 and 2009. Prior to that time, they average 10 wins per season. A FAR FAR cry from the situation our team was in. If you think they are remotely comparable, you are clueless. It's not.

Now, if you want to make the claim that Carroll and crew have made better moves via draft and FA since taking over, then you have a lot of ground to work with on that front. Would they be signing those FA if they had been stuck with 36 million cap penalty though? Probably not.

The last year and this year have stunted the growth of the team and organization with the cap penalty. Especially last offseason we couldn't add any o-line help or secondary help with zero money to spend or to keep our own guy AKA Lorenzo. Oh and a QB coming major knee surgery who isn't a pocket passer and team are making him throw to beat them. He is proving he needs a lot of work to get there, he is a horrible right now at reading defenses and progressing through his reads.Okay, Lorenzo Alexander. The guy who got away.

Lets say we have an additional $10 million in cap space (the difference between our restructures and the penalty).

Are you absolutely certain you'd match an offer from the Cardinals to pay Lorenzo Alexander $10 million over the next three years? Is that wise? Is there any chance the Redskins match that offer, even if they can afford to do so?

The team that was basically in the exact same situation we were in when Shanahan took over was Seattle. Years of mismanagement, lacking talent, knowing the QB of the future wasn't on the roster, and both franchises made an ill-advised trade of a day 2 draft pick (or at least what would now be day 2) that returned no stability at the QB position.

Seattle clearly did not need more than three years to completely change the position of their franchise in the NFL. They were down for two seasons.

Not the team I meant but your example may be better than mine.

The cap penalty isn't the difference between us and a great team. And it would matter a lot less if Mike didn't waste his first two seasons blowing up the defense and making several big mistakes at QB. But that misses the point. Talent is way down on the list of problems we face. Mike and co probably take up the top ten spots on the list and the cap penalty might be the eleventh.