So... The Government is Shut Down...

Conservatives need to admit defeat on health care and move on, the time to negotiate is over. Don't they have anything important to do? Like I don't know, passing the budget? Our gov't is flat out embarrassing.
Obama has not passed a budget sense he has been in office why the need now?

So proceed with a bad law just because it has been made a law, despite the number of jobs it's costing and more people are LOSING coverage than gaining it because of the legal requirements placed on employers and individuals alike, the fact that the Congressional Budget Office says it's costing 4 times the projected amount and will bankrupt the country, the fact that people's rate are tripling after being told it would decrease or cost nothing, it's driving many doctors to retire rather than deal with it, it's own authors admit it's a failure, the people who passed it are too afraid to live under it themselves and exempt not only themselves and their corporate friends and donors...and the list is endless?

The fact that someone is fighting this and not backing down gives our country a chance to actually survive it.

At minimum, the whole thing should be delayed until everything is actually in place to implement it. They've had three years already, but this debacle was not ready to be rolled out.

If you want a budget passed, blame goes solely on the Senate Democrats and President. They have not passed one since Obama has been President and we're heading into year #6. There's absolutely no excuse, the Democrats held the White House and BOTH houses of Congress for 2 years and still did not pass a budget.

That alone should be an impeachable offense, not performing the most important job duty they're required to do.

Lay off the vacations and parties and do your job, Mr. President and Senator Reid.

Its also funny Obama and company has removed and delayed several parts of this bill so its not like the Rep are asking for anything they have not already done. If they want the ACA then it should be made to start for everyone like planned and no excluding anyone even congress. Why do people think its ok for Obama and the Dems to pick and choose who goes under Obama care?

Please let's get something straight: if someone thinks that the ACA is a "bad law," that is an opinion.

The ACA is a law. That's a fact. Our whole system is based on such facts. The system is designed to operate lawfully.

Please stop acting like your opinion on the ACA is a fact. It is not.

wrong thread.

Jon Stewart on Government Shutdown 2013: Jon Stewart Blasts GOP Over Government Shutdown #Obamacare - YouTube

I loved his football reference in this video. Wasn't sure if someone posted it before.

So suppose to go camping next weekend on the Skyline Drive along the Blue Ridge mountains in the Shenanadoah National Park system...well guess what? damn im affected.

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Cant believe Boehner is still in a leadership position, he is horrible

Please let's get something straight: if someone thinks that the ACA is a "bad law," that is an opinion.

The ACA is a law. That's a fact. Our whole system is based on such facts. The system is designed to operate lawfully.

Please stop acting like your opinion on the ACA is a fact. It is not.

No its fact.

No its fact.

LOL this is why I hate politics.

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